Posted by MrJiggyFly (anonymous) on October 20, 2009 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Civilization works in cycles and unfortunately Ms. Salasse you and I are experiencing the degeneration phase and will probably not be alive to experience the rebirth of society. I feel sorry for our children because they will in all likely not experience the freedoms and lifestyle that we (the U.S.) enjoyed during the 20th century. It's a bummer I know . . . but that's life.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 20, 2009 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mrs Salasse: Its a culture kind of thing its in the music, you said it yourself in your words. Girls, young women and even others are just that meat, bitches and Hoes, Our esteemed leader could care less, its a culture thing. The SB isnt going to go against their "leader". The teachers are concerned about losing their jobs if they buck him and his leadership. Many of these "young ladies" who choose to act out this way, will surley become potential guests on the Maury Show or end up like the two sisters who had babies the same day and are still in school. We are all paying for the "mistakes" of these two.
Its time for parents or parent to stop being a best friend and be a responsible for their parenting skills and their children in a public forum such as a school. I trust that you notified your principal, the SB and maybe even a registered letter to the all above and yes the other elected leader of he SPS. That way at least you know they received your letter, your complaint, your disgust for their allowing this culture thing to thrive in the public schools. My bet you might hear from the principal over this only because he has to supervise your kid in the normal day of school. After that GOOD LUCK. Those in higher places are not concerned because they dont have any contact with your child or others. Their decesions are proof of that.
Yes in you day and mine we rebelled against the "establishment" I grew my hair just to hack Art Jones our principal.The difference is now its the establishment, it is society today that is rebelling against common sense,and a civil society.Its the society of ME ME if it feels good do it. Your daughter has nothing to be ashamed of or for. I admire her for her thinking, her beliefs, her convictions and walking out.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 5:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Im not sure if this the one I was looking for my watchdog on my computer here at work will not allow me to view it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXw-jSKo8...

just swell...its a culture thing you knows what im sayins

Posted by dbsalerno (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As a DJ that plays primarily for young audiences, perhaps I can offer some perspective on this.

I DJ the school dances at several local middle schools, and as a result, get a lot of requests for 13th birthday parties, 16th birthday parties, graduation parties, etc.

I feel that I have pretty high standards concerning the music that I will play. All of my music must be either labeled "clean" on iTunes, or a radio edit. Even then, I sometimes find myself going back and editing some songs myself. And even if the songs may not have any curse words, if they are too "mature" in theme for 11-year-olds (such as some R&B), I will not play them. I figure if I cannot play the song in front of their parents, I shouldn't be playing it at a school dance. There are also some songs that are just plain irritating, crass, or disrespectful that I will not play.

Nonetheless, I have received countless compliments from adults and children alike. I do play recent dance and hip-hop music that appeals to today's youth, which probably includes some of the songs the kids were "grinding" to. Of course, if they really want to "grind", they will find just about any song to dance that way to.

The difference is that, in the situations I DJ in, they are very well chaperoned, and that type of dancing is discouraged to begin with and stopped as soon as it is noticed. I am somewhat surprised that the school allowed that type of dancing to continue to the degree that it did.

The problem, however, is much like any behavior--if it is condoned at home, it is very hard to discourage it at school, etc. The problem starts at home.

I'm sorry you had the experience you did. School dances can be fun. The music is definitely different than what many of us grew up to, but believe me--it is still possible to have fun, current dance and hip-hop music in a safe, enjoyable atmosphere that does not include dancing like you experienced at NRHS.

Posted by FreedomofOpinion (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am glad a DJ gave some insight. Some of my students went to the dance - and even they, as students, were shocked that the DJ that night played a very graphic song called "Give me that Becky" by Plies. They would not tell me what the words were - I looked it up later. I cannot believe ANY DJ would play that for ANY function, let alone a school dance. Look it up and be disgusted.

Posted by FreedomofOpinion (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wish you would post the name of your company - I agree - school dances can be loads of fun - maybe a different DJ would help the next event!

Posted by MrJiggyFly (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good post DJ

Posted by KNRMCO (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The School administrators should have stepped up to the plate & said "NO". After all weren't they the chaperones? If they are allowing this to happen at a school dance, can you imagine what goes on in some classes?

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Again the dj controls the music, which sounds to me this man is a good and popular one. Think why. Now for the behavior on the floor thats the issue and not having any real adult supervision. Accountability, Responsibility Civilibility there is none and none took action to act with some.? Hopefully we will obtain some insight from a teacher that was there or knows more of what took place and why? am: maybe you can comment when the day ends...
I remember a sock hop at the missing Birdsong Rec Center a gift to the city torn down due to political dealings and Louie Louie was played, or should i say there was an attempt to play it.... enuff said

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Freedom: I checked that song out. nothing but pure excrement.Im sorry but those lyrics need to be transmitted to the good doctor, the principal, and posted on the bulleting board in the teachers lounge and some one needs to ask what the #$#@@#$#@! was and is going on in that school. My opinion, heads should be severed and careers ended with in this, in the SPS system.There is and was no excuse for this kind of "music" being played in the school. It might sound well out on the street from which it was born and came from. This is a culture that some praise, defend and live by? Chris Rock the comedian calls it as calling a spade a spade and those who promote it, defend it and live it are. If the word and description are needed then google Chris Rock and the word head. Where is the outcry from the good doctor the SB, teachers and the community from which it comes from? They all say nothing about it? Opps thats right its a culture thing and I am told that I have to acknowledge it and respect it as such? Yea count on it.

Posted by dbsalerno (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Freedom: I agree, I would question the wisdom of a DJ intentionally playing a very graphic unedited song to a group that contains kids as young as 14. Believe me, I have accidentally downloaded the wrong version of a song once before, and when I played it for the first time at an event and heard the first few bad words, the song was yanked right away and deleted from my laptop. This sounds like a lack of character on the part of the DJ. And, by the way, I'm not with a company, I'm an independent amateur who DJs on weekends for the love of it and to help out in the community.

KNRMCO and OD: Yes the DJ controls the music, but I have had a principal come up to the DJ table, take my mic, and threaten to stop the dance if certain behavior continued (I think in this case it was as innocent, but still dangerous, as running around and bumping into each other). And I applauded him for that, and reinforced that by telling the kids that if they didn't want to listen to Barry Manilow for the rest of the night :), they needed to listen to what he said and behave. Problem over. I would have hoped someone at NRHS would have stepped up and stopped the behavior as well. And if the DJ had a problem with that, well, I would suggest he isn't much of a DJ...

Here's the sad thing--there are songs out there that are pure junk, that I can't clean up no matter how hard I edit them, and as a result simply cannot play them. But the kids request them anyway. In droves. Kids as young as 11 years old.

The sad truth is that kids are listening to this music already, right in their very own homes, under the supposed "supervision" of their parents. A good number of the kids at that dance probably didn't hear anything that they haven't already heard from the privacy of their iPods or laptops, or their friends' iPods or laptops. I know this for a fact because, when I play the edited versions of some songs, I've actually seen a few kids "mouth" the unedited words. After all, Freedom, that's why your kids were shocked the DJ would play it--they already knew the words...

Posted by nrhsstudent0111 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a student at Nanesmond River High School and attended the homecoming dance on Saturday night.
This comments and articles from people who weren't even attending the dance are crazy! Calling the dancing "pornographic" is way out of line!
If you are watching clips of our dance on Youtube your are just getting the worst parts of the dance! When students place videos on that website they do it for people to watch. They are not going to put videos of people dancing normally on there because no one would bother to watch that! So the people who were not on Youtube were not as bad as those how were and are now feeling ashamed for even being at the dance! Why would you want to do that to high school students just because their classmates didn't make the best decisions?
Another thing, prom is ten times worst then what went on at the homecoming dance yet you don't see articles about those students up on here!
I am enraged that these things are being said about my school! We are good students and people for the most part and shouldn't have to read and hear about all this from other people! We are just high school students who make mistakes and bad chooses like everyone else in the world! We don't deserve this type of things being said about us. The same thing goes on at other schools too so why aren't they up on here?
I also picked up a lot on the fact that it is mostly the girls who are being called out. Calling us pieces of meat is ridiculous and not needed.
All these comments about song choice are crazy as well. Everyone knows that all these songs today are about sexual actions in any genre you listen to. They may not be as up front about it as the songs played but they are there. I jfeel like people are too obesessed over this dance and need to really be focusing on what their childern are picking up on and acting like because if they did that we wouldn't be having this problem.

Posted by KNRMCO (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DOES THAT MAKE IT RIGHT? jUST ONE INSTANCE IS NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE. AND IF I WERE A PARENT OF A NRHS STUDENT, YOU CAN BET YOR AZZ I WOULD BE UP IN ARMS WHETHER IT BE HOMECOMING OR PROM....I AS A PARENT WOULD NOT BE SANTIONING THAT BEHAVIOUR & YOU AS MY CHILD WOULD NOT BE ATTENDING ANY EVENTS! JUST "ONE" CLIP ON YOU TUBE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH! WHO WAS THE DJ? HE WOULD NEVER PLAY AT A SCHOOL EVENT AGAIN IF i WERE IN CHARGE.

Posted by jd1640 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have ambivalent feelings toward this article. I understand, however, where Ms. Evelyn Salasse is coming from, to a certain extent. Unfortunately, I am rather appauled by the word selection; calling today's young women "meat!" Who are we to judge an individual on how they dance, when there are an abundance of other characteristics?

I would have to beg to differ about the school administrators just watching and having fun. I witnessed an administrator tell two dancers to "stop!" So you cannot say the chaperone's were not doing their jobs.

Yes, however, they could have done more to stop it, but evidently they didn't think of it as a serious concern.

I believe that if you (the parents) did not want your child exposed to this type of behavior, you shouldn't have let them go to the dance. You obviously know what kind of society we are today, based on the music, so you are partially at fault. Everyone knows that a dance today is not all about slow dancing and "the bump!"

Can I get an upgrade?

The DJ is not at blame for the actions taken up by the students.
It's his job to play music to entertain us. You all make it seem as though he forced it upon us to "freak dance," when in reality he didn't. If anything, he was not condoning this type of behavior because I can count on one hand how much songs were played that we can actually dance to.

JACLYN DAVIS
Student of Nansemond River High

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 6:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

come back when you grow up, you contridicted your own words. We are foucsing on what our kids are doing, you even admit its a problem. You enjoy some boy humping on your backside like a "dog" in heat? You must, you have no self esteem. What if a real dog hunched up on your leg? wouldnt you slap him down? You brag abt the video, that was smart, you gave the adminstration evidence of yourselves. You think youre parent or parents would be proud? Will you show it to them? If you do anmd they think its cute or just kids being kids. They dont deserve to be called a parent or parents.Now your being called out. Your explanation is a joke and doesnt do you well either young, (nope lady doesnt fit here)

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mrs Salasse used the word meat in describing what she thinks and it's no different that bitches and hoes in the music you embrace. So if your upset get over it. You say that you saw an adult (adminstrator/teacher say stop) well did you? Some teachers are scared of what might happen to them. I hate to think how you are treating Mrs Salasses daughter because she spoke out and it makes you mad
I dont think the attack is against the dj so much as it is the behavior of you students and the officials of the school district.Remember its our tax dollar, never mind your inability to understand the ramifications that some teachers could be fired over this because they failed in their duties as adults and parents themselves. My guess is you could care less. Your a freak and a hoochie moma.

Posted by jd1640 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 7:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And I'm guessing your an adult? Your passing judgement on someone you don't even know, better yet a student! So why don't YOU just get over it, because what went on at the dance is OVER with!!

So I'm a "freak and a hoochie moma?" because I stated my opinion? Last time I checked I definately did not dance! So yeah...

JACLYN DAVIS... again!

Posted by prettyeyes (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 7:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Bump? that is so old school!! I don't see how you can call 14-18 year olds "hoochies" because they were mearly having fun at a school dance. My tax dollars went to this event therefore my kids will enjoy themselves and as long as i dont have a problem with it you need to mind your own business as to what other parents allow thier children to do! I believe i taught my children what good morals and bad morals are and dancing is not a bad thing it's JUST DANCING! I could see if they were really having sex but i can see that nobody was.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well pretty eyes my tax dollar is used to support that school as well, I am minding my business. If kids want to have fun as say and its described. That behavior belongs back on the street from which it came. Its a culture thing I forgot. I wont question your morals. They are are like your opinions. I do respect one's opinion. I dont have to agree with it or disagree with either.

Posted by 0183 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a sudent who also attended the dance on saturday, I think that before you judge you should think to yourself how your generation acted when you all were enjoying your youthful years. May I remind you of dirty dancing or many of the other provocative dances from the 50's- present day. So to the author and any adult who commented I personally feel that it is very hypocritical of you to refer to outr generstion as "trashy" or imply that everyone who danced like this(mind you that is about 85% percent of our generation) will end up on the maury show and pregnant. Some of these comments are completely absurd and ridiculous. Also the author does not have all of her facts straight I personally witnessed our assistant principles and police officers walking through the crowd and tellling kids to "dance like they are at school". So before you attack our faculty you should actually find out the thruth. Finally as a responce to the commnet stating "if this is how students act at a school dance imagine how the classrooms are" this comment has no basis. NRHS has one of the most well behaved student bodys, we rarely have fights we always have passings scores and the overall learning enviornment is great. So before you post your comments everyone should think about the things you are saying because some of these comments are pretty ignorant.

Outraged Student(who by the way did not take part in this so called "freak dancing"

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nobody called you anything, I didnt judge you. The word hoochie was used as adjective.

Posted by 0183 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Another comment to those parents complaining about the faculty. The faculty cannot completely see every little thing in a crowd of 600, and the truth of the matter is if every parent today was fufilling their parental responsiblities the children of today would not have as many problems. Basically my point is, the faculty and staff our not our parents. if you aren't a good parent and didn't instill good morals and values in your children in the 14-18 years that they have been living with you then how in the world do you expect the faculty to instill these values in them in a period of 3 hours??

Posted by prettyeyes (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

May I remind you of your exact words!
"Your a freak and a hoochie moma"
I believe that is directed to an individual rather than just being said as an adjective!!!

Posted by prettyeyes (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the person who commented to Jaclyn Davis....who gives you the right to call a student a "hoochie" and also to tell a young lady to come back when she grows up? she just stated her opinion on what happened at the dance. I am a parent who let my children go to the dance, no i don't like the fact that there was some provocative dancing going on but the bottom line is we cannot keep our eyes on our kids 24/7 and its gonna happen. they had faculty and police there and obviously it wasn't to bad or they would have sent the children home and possibly called the parents of the students if it was really that bad!

Posted by jd1640 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To whom it may concern,
I am utterly irritated that these parents have the audacity to insult the parenting abilities of others. What makes you substancial to criticize others? This situation is being blown out of proportion

We don't appreciate being called ignorant! We comprehend to the fullest that you pay tax dollars, but doesn't everone?

What if we proclaimed that you were outmoded, senile, middle aged parents and your opinion really didn't matter? Don't judge us for stating our opinions, or our parents!!

About the "freak dancing"...
I am yet another student who did not partake in the dancing. I do not, however, find our style of dancing repulsive in anyway.

CIERRA DAVIS
student of Nansemond River High

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

okayy check this out

thats how us teeennnss dancee nowwww!!!!!!!!!!!
this aint the old days when you were a teen. I just want to piggy back on what Jaclyn said, if you dont want your kid exposed to that type of dancing then keep her at home!
Any dance or party that she goes to will have this type of *grinding*. What kind of dancing do you want us to do? The moonwalk? breakdancing and getting on the ground spinning on our heads? Put your hands in the air and wave 'em like you just dont care? NO! That is not what we do! Point blank period. So i mean just keep your kids away from every party and dance. That's to be expected from us.

And Evelyn, the DJ played all types of songs except songs you can "grind" to. We couldnt get him to play any at all! He played maybe 3. So yeah, you should really be at the dance to really know what happend and not just go off of what your niece tells you because she obviously doesn't know what she's talking about.
and no jaclyn is not a hoochie mama she's pretty awesome! haha

Posted by biancalr12 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a 12th grader at Nansemond River and I attended the Homcoming Dance. The students were indeed "grinding" the whole time. I myself saw it as imature, and disrespectful to the enviornment. Me and my friends just stood in dismay at how the students danced like they were in a night club. But if you were to ask who were the main girls grinding, the ones would that would raise their hands are the freshman girls with upperclassmen boys. These girls think that now that they are in high school they can do what ever they want when they want. Yes, high school gives them more freedom than middle school, but along with that freedom comes responsiblity, and thats what most are not getting. Now im not saying that its all freshman girls because there were some there that were in just as much a shock as I was you could see it on their face. The upper classmen boy know the rules, and very well so there is no excuse for their actions, they should be showing the underclassmen how 2 mature instead of how to act imature. As far as the chaperones defense, i can personally say they were not standing around letting the students "grind" they were coming and stoping them. They can not be everywhere at once. once they left the students started up again while they went to stop other students. The music was stopped and students were constantly reminded that they were in a school not a club, but they ignored it. The DJ did play music that one would say caused the students to "grind" but they make their own decisions not the Dj for them, he did not make them do that. there are other ways of dancing to a hype song than "grinding". I think that if parents are angry about what went on they should talk to there child because they know what their child does and they need to make it clear that what they are doing is unacceptable. It is not the schools responsibilty to teach the child about this type of things because if they are allowed to do it at home they think they can do it any where and thats just not true. After the dance, once the lights were turned on on the floor you saw napkins and juice boxes everywhere. This was an imature act made by the students in general. We as students have to understand that having that dance was a privillage not a RIGHT and it can be taken away. WE MUST DO BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Warrior2011 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I too, am a student at NRHS, I won't give out my name because I do not want to be picked on. I went to the dance, and also have seen the videos - they are even showing them at school. So if you were not there, you don't know.

I have not been to the Prom so I dont know - but it wasn't "so called freak dancing" that is the name of the dance. So why are you saying "so called" like someone made it up.

Also, I saw one principle and one teacher try to stop it and they were made fun of and the teacher was cussed. Other administrators stood against the wall and watched the dancing, or just ate cookies and took pictures on their cameras.

And to the writer who said the letter author called us girls meat, read the letter. The letter author said and I quote
Girls were allowing themselves to be disrespected, to be treated as pieces of meat.

She didn't call anyone meat, she described what she saw.

And wow, nrhsstudent0111, do you really not know the words to the becky that the dj played? How can you say song choice was OK? When he played that song I left. Here are some of the words:

<REMOVED BY SITE STAFF>

and just keep adding the f word. Sorry if your momma let you listen to that, you REALLY ARE being raised wrong. If you are just a nice good student tell me would you let your preacher hear that song?

The DJ played all types of songs except songs you can "grind" to someone said. OH yeah? It was SUPPOSED to be Michael Jackson night - the dj played Beat It and that's all. If he didn't play music you could grind to then how come 99% were grinding? I don't mind grinding - but most of it out there that night was plain nasty.

Why should we have to stay home from a dance? I would like to enjoy my years at MY school too.

Posted by MDLM (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i just had a quick comment to say to OD. you say your that tax dollars goes to that school .when it maybe but none of your tax money went to that dance because we raised the money for that Dance. we sold ticket and with that money we paid for the dance. & i agree with the other students it wasn't that bad . i was there i yes i grinded & no my butt wasn't on the a man's part. another thing we sold over 680 tickets and it's kind of impossible to watch over soo many students at one time but i did see our administrators telling other people to stop. i just think we're only young once and we just wanna have fun.

MDL

Posted by mikacheek (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LET ME TELL YOU ALL SOMETHING. As a student who attended that dance, I am shocked of the comments made by people that were not there. Every generation has its dances, and it is extremely hypocritical that you would even think of making comments that suggested different. It is outrageous how many of you close minded individuals can make these ridiculous allegations with no facts to prove them. You give your opinions without a shred of evidence. You’re basing them off of hear say- pure gossip. The students of NR are some of the best in this region. We are a fully accredited school and have the up most respect for ourselves as well as our bodies. You are announcing that all of the NR are trashy and scum. How dare you judge the people you claim to love- friends, relatives, and even children? How dare you use such negative connotations and exaggerations to portray us as whores? How dare you say to the world that we will amount to nothing, except guests on the Maury show? I take all honors classes, maintain AT LEAST a 3.9 G.P.A in said classes, and I am President of our FCCLA. There is no way on God's green earth that you will convince me that I will not amount to much. I have high hopes for my future and I am determined to reach if not exceed my goals. I take your words as a challenge to become a better person than any of you, doing so with kindness in my heart. The comments you make are rude, insensitive, ignorant, and disrespectful. You have ruined the reputations of many that didn't even take part in the "grinding,” yet alone attend the dance. People such as you all make me sick to my stomach with disbelief in how cruel words can be. All of this negative attention to a high school dance is unnecessary and just ridiculous. Though I feel it a waste of time having to defend the stupidity of this matter, I will. I am a NRHS Warrior and I refuse to take this battle lying down. I am disgusted that you will even consider the thoughts that you intentionally put down on paper. How can you possibly say administrators were standing around watching, when you were not there. Did you see them? (Another unproven accusation) NRHS has the best administration around, and they are highly respected. NRHS is a school filled with pride. We have gotten through 5 bomb threats, pushing students to pass SOLs, and we will most definitely get through the thoughtless accusations being made against us. We are Warriors and we will fight this to the very end. We will not go down in history with the picture you have painted. We will hold our heads up high, walk down the halls of Nansemond River and proceed like your words were never written, because by doing so we are better- we are acting as the mature young adults our society will one day cherish.
- Jamika L. Bivens
NRHS sophomore

Posted by Warrior2011 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The person above me is right, it was alot of freshman girls and upper class boys. And the Hoecoming Committee did a really nice job of decorating and getting food and drink and at the end it looked like a club scene. I don't know who cleaned it up but I felt sorry for them.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Again I will say I respect one's opinion. The person that could be another issue. 1083 spoke with a conviction. I dont know if that conviction was created by just my comments and others. Could it be because she is embarrased by what took place at the dance as well?
I stand corrected I did say you're. I wont apologize. I got her attention, she stated she didnt dance either. Why? I care not to hear an excuse maybe a reason.As for the other student who spoke out, try reading her arguement and reasoning.
You are right pretty you let your kid go So did others who had really had no clue as to what would take place. They I would say they expect adults in charge to maintain some order and decorum. Why did they have police on site? Why?
This issue isnt over until the SPS comments and attempts to explain Why, How, and What took place on school property. This issue isnt going to die for the sake of one wanting it to die. I will put my comments and concern this way how would you be reacting if say your child goes to a private party and you child doesnt make it home because adults want to be the kids friend and be cool parents so they serve up liquor and beer.I bid a good night and 1083 it was rewarding to read your comments. My thoughts and commentary on this issue will be directed to the officials duly elected by sending a registered letter and in person at the next ADVERTISED meeting. VOAI. Elections arent that far off and many will not forget.

Posted by mikacheek (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To OD, you have no idea what kind of person Jaclyn is. She's one of the nicest persons I have met at NR. For you disrespect someone like that, yet alone child... your mother must feel pretty guilty in the way you turned out. Educate yourslef and get some respect for the feeling of others. I am 15 years old and I know how to conduct myself in a better manner than you. Your behavior is ridiculous. If you were the adult you are portraying to be, you would apologize. If you can't, than the students of NRHS aren't the problem in society, people like you are.
-Jamika Bivens
NRHS Sophomore

Posted by mikacheek (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 9:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Personally OD, your starting to infuriate me. They had police there as a formality. You are blowing this matter up over the words of a child, that was spread by that of her aunt, who by the way doesn't live in Suffolk. Do you really not trust the common sense of the administration, and city officials. If that's the case MOVE. No one did anything wrong at that dance, and we will not be tried like we did. You are going to demolish the reputation of our school over nothing. I have been with students over the tidewater region. Have you seen their dances??? Maybe you should visit Kings Fork or maybe Lakeland. You are quite an ignorant, disrepectful, and just plain dumb human being. It pains me that after everything our school has went through, we have to experiance such negative responses. Even if you think something went wrong on Saturday, the damage is done. Let it go. We paid for the dance, and we all enjoyed ourselves. If you didn't, I apologize.. seems like a personal problem. But I refuse to let you talk about the NRHS student bod like that. You are a person with no life and you have no regards for the feelings of others.
-Jamika Bivens
NRHS Sophomore

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i don't even know what else to say.
OD and 2011 you guys are idiots to me. seriously.
it's just the way we dance. 2011 im sure you got a type of dance you like to do or maybe you're just one of those people who are too shy to do anything. i personally dont care but i mean, wow, it really isn't that serious.
99 percent of teens "grind" or do "nasty dancing" haha! it amazes me how you guys are so simple minded.

and Jamika you are freakin the most awesomest bestie ever and you're a terrific writer. im so jealous haha!

-Kyle Moore
NRHS Sophomore. duhhhh!

Posted by prettyeyes (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow Jaclyn you really must be liked at nrhs. but on to more important words... the police are usually at high school functions whether or not there is or will be problems there. It's for security purposes.

Posted by SurprisingSuffolkNot (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

1st time writing a comment! Couple of points:

1. Tax dollars did pay for the dance - it took place in the public school. Citizens pay for the lights, the administrators, the custodians, the water, the toilet paper.

2. Why can't we all just get along?

3. To all of you young adults, teens, who say You Don't Know us, don't judge us - here is a relaity check: People judge. All the time. By what you wear, how your dress, how you act. It may not be fair, or always right, but you (and everyone else) is being judged all the time.

4. The lyrics to that song played at a high school dance are - well, beyond any decency. Who OKed that song? Who hired the DJ? Did they see or submit a play list?

5. Stop saying if you weren't there you can't have an opinion. It is on Facebook and youtube - anyone can see it - and some people can call it dancing, and some people can call it sodomy. It's an opinion.

6. What difference does it make where the author lives? Her niece attends a Suffolk school - she too, has a right to her opinion.

7. We need a Solomon to tell us what really went on. Some students seem to have seen 90% grinding, some students saw none at all. Oh, I forgot - there are videos!

8. Methinks some administrators or chaperones might be writing some of the letters to cover their rears.

9. Next time they have a dance, let's all go!

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

same to you biancalr12.
you're an idiot!!

Posted by Warrior2011 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So Kyle, anyone who thinks different than you is an idiot? Your comments pretty much make it easy for people to ignore anything you wrote. By the way, that's why I didn't give my name - because of jerks like you.

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SuprisingSuffolkNot,
i do agree that they shouldn'tve played Becky by Plies because that song is very provacative and i have no idea what made him play it, but you're still an idiot! just like everybody else who posts something about this in a negative way. it's overrr!!! it's what we do! and it's not going to change! so please get over it! you're making a big deal out of nothing!

-kmoe.duhh.!
NRHS Student.

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

haha yo warrior2011,

relaxx i mean i wouldnt come up to you or anything, its your opinion i just don't think it makes much sense!
and nahh im not a jerk. im pretty much a lovable guy =) soooo i mean don't come at me like that! haha!

you're still cool tho warrior! dont take this to heart lol.

Posted by jd1640 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, the thing I do not understand is how you all are contradicting yourselves? NR is at fault for what the DJ played?
I would have to fully disagree with that one. All of these comments being made about the songs being played are not relevant in anyway.

First it started from the dancing now to the music?
C'mon! You are blaming our school for hiring the DJ when in fact they didn't make him play "Becky." He chose to play it; therefore, he is the one to point fingers at... NOT NANSEMOND RIVER HIGH!!!

And go Jamika, Kyle, and Cierra.. You all are freakin schweeettt!
<3

JACLYN DAVIS

Posted by jd1640 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow administrators or chaperones are definately not hiding there identities behind students to cover "their rears" as you portray. We are just young students who are obviously intellectual individuals who know how to present ourselves. Thank you (:

I coincide with everything Jamika has presented. I admire her convictions as well as Jaclyn's and Kyle's.

As for the rest of you. You admire what you truly dont know. I find it humorous.

CIERRA NICOLE DAVIS
(student at nrhs)

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 10:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

took you long enough to submit all that cierra! haha!
typing all slow=]!
but yeahh once again i agree with you! and jaclyn and miika.!

Posted by SurprisingSuffolkNot (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 11:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"I coincide with everything you say."
"What makes you substancial to criticize others?"
"I am yet another student who did not partake in the dancing"
"We comprehend to the fullest"

Note to Cierra- using big words incorrectly is not impressive, nor intellectual. You are incapable of coinciding, nor can you partake of dancing. I hope you do not have an A in English or that will open up a whole new can of worms.

I was not suggesting that the level of writing in the comments was probative of an intellectually superior administrator writing as a cover up. You are obviously still a student. It was some other posts that appeared to indicate that some subterfuge might be promulgated in an attempt to obfuscate some modicum of blame that might be besmirching some in positions of authority.

"We are just young students who are obviously intellectual individuals who know how to present ourselves. " Yes, that is certainly proven by the repeated leit motif of "You are a jerk."

Most impressive of your communication skills, to say nothing of your logical thinking abilities.

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

woah woah woaaahhh!! i know SuprisingNotSuffolk is not coming at me! haha
i happen to have an A in honors english i just don't feel as if this article is even worth me taking my time to make sure everything is in perfect english formatting or that my grammar is exactly perfect because once again i just don't feel like taking my time for this worthless garbage!

so what you can do is know a little more about me before making assumptions haha one of the smartest in the class of 2012. thank youu!

Posted by SurprisingSuffolkNot (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 11:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

3. To all of you young adults, teens, who say You Don't Know us, don't judge us - here is a relaity check: People judge. All the time. By what you wear, how your dress, how you act. It may not be fair, or always right, but you (and everyone else) is being judged all the time.

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 11:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oh nevermind SuprisingNotSuffolk. haha! i thought you were talking about me at first. =D

Posted by SurprisingSuffolkNot (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 11:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

:))

Posted by jazODU13 (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 11:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As a Nansemond River graduate of 2009, I must say that these comments are very immature even to an 18-year old eye. Seriously, our culture has changed;the administration and staff realizes that. Our administration and staff trust the students and teach us how to make responsible decisions. ITS DANCING! And all do respect, your child, niece, or nephew are probably doing "the grind" too. Take a look back at the movie "Dirty Dancing" were the moves were towards the front, "pelvic thrusting" - and you call what we do sexually explicit? RIGHT....and you do realize that you are commenting back to teenagers right? After you said what needed to be said dont you think you should have left the problem alone? I dont know...that's what a responsible adult would have done. In the words of Will Smith "Parents Just Don't Understand" the dancing is not to tell the children "take your clothes off" its about expressing yourself no matter how you are dancing. No one is going to but a gun up to someone's head and say grind on me. We have dances that don't involve touching at all. It's a personal choice and in high school as well as college, us teenagers just want to have fun. I refuse to let you "bash" my high school as if it were nothing. Kids are bringing guns to school and beating people to death and you're "outraged" by a story you heard about a dance. Ha, wow.

-Jasmine Roberts
Nansemond River 2009

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 12:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

wuz good jaaazzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant wait for you to come back and visit!=]]

Posted by jazODU13 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 12:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lil bro ! I had to come in!!
I love my school, and I love my little brother and my little sister (jamika). People these days....this has been blown WAYYY out of proportion. I grind and I graduated at the top 20% of my class and I attend Old Dominion University. I listen to Plies and Lil Wayne, so did our Valedictorian and Salutatorian and they were grinding at prom. All of my friends graduated with honors, and all of my underclassmen friends will get into prestigious universities, join the military, whatever they choose to do they will have fulfilling lives and I doubt if a dumb homecoming dance will stop them. What's the big deal ??!! I don't even remember the homecoming dances I went to! hahaha

Posted by kmoe07 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 12:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

that's exactly what we've been saying.! they just aint feeling us jaz! haha! they just don't understand what we're trying to say

Posted by jazODU13 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 12:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I mean the comment was like "can you imagine what goes on in some classes?" ummm LEARNING ! C'mon now we go to school to get an education. The dance is for us to enjoy ourselves. These are the SAME songs played on the radio every single day. When they get to college they have a very RUDE awakening. Everything in life is done by choice. Watch T.V. it is no secret how we dance or the music we listen to. I'm glad I graduated and my fellow 09'ers cannot believe how dumb this whole article is. Like it's being brought to someones attention when my sister graduated in 2004 and they were still dancing the same way.

Posted by jacktastic (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 2:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am also a recent graduate of NRHS and attended my fair share of homecoming dances. Yes we did the infamous "grind" lol and much more. Sure many would have considered it inappropriate. But in all reality, we didn't care! WE WERE HAVING FUN!! Sorry parents but, when it comes down to it, you can't control how your children choose to dance. Isn't every other aspect of their lives enough? For the entire duration of their education your children are told what to do and when to do it. I’m pretty sure they'll be damned if they let a teacher or even YOU tell them how to dance too. Homecoming is one of VERY FEW times when students are in school and not worrying about the stresses of homework, tests, or essays. It’s strictly time to have fun and let loose :). Can't you let them have that little bit of freedom without trying to make them feel inferior? Yea they probably know grinding wouldn't exactly make you proud, but this time isn't about you. I think it's safe to say you're not even on their minds while they conduct what you would consider "mating" haha! It's sad to see how awfully ignorant parents are about what goes on in school these days. Heads up, this is not the worst of it. Some of your children are actually (dare I say it) HAVING SEX!!! :O..shocking, I know. But that’s the way things are now, and grinding is considered fun. You can't change it, so accept it. If you can't accept it, hope and trust you've raised your child to prevail in an environment you so highly disapprove of. For those of you who imply that one who participates in such dancing does not contain characteristics of one with a bright future, might I remind you I am one of those students. I am also a pre-medical technology major in the Honors College at ODU. My future would freakin blind a bitch $$$!!! All that said, the way one dances has nothing to do with his/her academic abilities :)

Jacqualyn Irons
NRHS c/o 09

Posted by batman (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4873mPdm1...

Posted by NRHSWarrior (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All the adults that are posting comments on this topic are just MAD that when they went to school that they couldent get away with it. They also need to get a life.

Posted by cblackwell (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have no problem with people voicing their opinions and concerns, but when it turns into you putting others down and calling children outside their names that when i feel it gets out of hand. what right do you have to call anyone a hoochie momma or a slut, i know you wouldnt want anyone in your family to be called that so why would you say it about people you dont even know. Most of the people commenting are saying that they are adults welll act like it. you dont get your point across by verbally attaking some one. you (adults) act like you were never young and just wanted to have fun. How dare you say that many of the young ladies who dance like that will be on the maury show, you know nothing about these children to make judgements. how would you feel if some one judge you off the way that you walk or the type of movies you watch, most likely you wouldnt like it. I am a student at NRHS and i am so mad that we are the only ones who have been ridiculed by people who dont know us. you can go to any homecoming and see dancing like that if not worse. whoever wrote this article should have got all the information instead of just hearing it from her niece. you should have come to us and said it in a nicer way instead of calling us sluts, whores, saying that our class rooms must be out of control ect. now everyone thinks that NRHS is a wild school when we truely arent. we are some of the most well behaved students around, we know how to act during certain situations. i am sorry that you will never know how great NRHS Warriors really are all because your neice didnt like the dance. One more thing... Do you know how your neice was dancing at the homecoming dance?

Posted by Eshaa (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a proud well-grounded student attending Nansemond River High School , and it's hurts me dearly to see how people are giving the highest STATE ACCREDITED SCHOOL a reputation that is strickly UNNESSASARY and False made. I am a Member and Elected reported of the FBLA club, a happy member of the chess team, a member of L.A.D.I.E.S.of Diversity (Volunteer program),and i attend church faithfully and take part of a praise team and choir. I myself went to this so called " NIGHT CLUB" of a school and i enjoyed myself while dancing and not dancing. For those Lifeless people who have nothing else to do with their lives and have nothing else to say but NEGATIVE COMMENTS about my school YOU ARE HYPHERBOLIZING the whole situation! A dance is Put on to do what? TO DANCE... and that is all that occured during this occation.You imbassals my not approve the way that SOME student were dancing (and no some of it was not innopropiate for a school ground gathering) but we had fun. Over a certain amount of time genarations have adapted to society's change of FADS and other things that are youth enjoy doing. AND WE LIKE TO DANCE. Im sure i speak for every one who is against the article written by Evelyn Salasse. But wih all do respect with everyones opinions and my elders YOU ARE COMPLETLY MAKING FOOLS OF YOURSELVES and you are taking this over board. I sure you niece didnt have a god time NOT because of the way that we were dancing but because YOU WERE THERE. trust and belive that accurate statistics state that 45% of youth have two different personalities from their school and home life. She might be a perfect little angel when she in in you presance but if you were not there im quite sure she would be in this category of which you would say are "hocchies,hoes,and acts of pieces of meat" First hand i am a well know person at NRHS and any one who knows me or have been in my presance can say TRUTHFULLY that i am GOOFEY and i am a person of my WORD! I hold my tounge for no one because that is the way i was brought up. AND I CAN TRUTHFULLY SAY that i was "GRINDING" but there is a fine line between GRIND dancing and what appears to be "PORNOGRAPHY" to the people who are aginst the way OUR YOUTH GERERATION HAVE FUN. "the BUMB" Ms. Evelyn Salasse was the start of the creation of the dance you seem to so horrified about. AND YOU CAN DO RESEARCH AND FIND THIS FOR YOURSELF IF YOU ARE QUESTIONING MY INTELLIGANCE!

Posted by NRHSstudent (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I attend NRHS and to be honest, this what YOU call 'freak dance' and 'grinding' is how teens dance these days. I mean you aren't going to go to any party or dance that doesn't have this kind of music nor dancing so for you to call out Nansemond River is uncalled for because i'm one hundred percent sure that if you went into any other school dance at any other school that you would see the same thing there. Nansemond River is not only fully accredited but we also have a very good staff and the students that attend are very intelligent, and bright kids. In my opinion even posting an article like this and getting an up roar started is ridiculous. What do you expect us to do, it's not like the staff didn't try and prevent this dancing, because they did. There is only so much a certain amount of adults can do to a huge group of teens. This is a stupid argument and point blank is if your niece was so upset about this then why didn't she just stay home? I understand where you are coming from, but when you set rules not every single one of them is going to be followed. Anyways I don't agree with the whole judging the student at NRHS, we're a good group of students and I take some of the name calling offensivly. This whole deal about this just needs to end it's over there is nothing you can do about it now so just stop making such a big deal about the dancing and move on.

-Student at NRHS

Posted by Eshaa (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AS i said prior to this Generations adapt to different ways of having fun . YOU DID IT YOUR WAY and we will do it our way. BUT I WILL NOT SIT HERE AND LET YOU TALK ABOUT the administation the way you are . YOU protray them to be "Careless, and un aware with our behavior at the dance. Our adminisration were pulling GIrls who were doing OVER THE TOP GRINDING OFF OF THE BOYS! We did what the administation allowed us to do and that was TO HAVE A GOOD TIME. Mabe in YOUR DAY this type of behavior was not tollorated because mabe people didnt care to do that with you. . .But society has changed . We have a BLACK president , We have COMPUTERS, and many other advanced type of of communication, and we have NEW DANCES. And yes i was very surprised that the DJ played "BECKY" at the dance and im quite sure that i was the first girl to grab a boy when that song came on but just because you dance a certain way to a certain song does not mean the lyrics are affecting you in any way. Our youth are Very powerful ad have voices that need to be heard. MAYBE if you sit and talk to you NIECE about the things she wold like to do you wouldnt worry about what OTHER KIDS OUR DOING! My mother and father are very suportive of my actions , grade, and Extra Corricular ativities in schools and my life out of school.MAYBE your problem is that you ren't aware of those things when it comes to you NIECE. SHE PROBABLY IS LISTENING TO "BECKY" RIGHT NOW ON HER I POD.

DO NOT HOLD THE DJ ACCOUNTALE FOR THE SUDENTS ACTIONS. WHATEVER THE STUDENTS DO IT'S THERE CHOICE. And as far as he administaion . . . They are the best staff a school could be PROTESTED AND LOVED BUY. But people like you really need to get a life ! Or go do something with it. OR GO ON BETTER HONEY MOONS...

-Aishia Taliaferro
a proud and deticated NRHS SOPHMORE

Posted by NRHSWARRIOR09 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW the teachers didnt see any of them doing this kuz they were either 1. doing it too or 2.they were in the office. and also i dont believe any of u are telling the truth bout students uploading a vid. n if u r telling the truth send mi a video at my email Colesprousefan2@yahoo.com. and BTW this is ridicules on postin this s**t here. and also we did have a good time their and i bet the chick that "left" early got grinded too. but she is too scared to admit that she did to her parents. im srry but this is soooooooooooooo ridicules.

Posted by Poohbear212 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I myself is a Nansemond River Student and i was at the Dance on Satuurday.. You have no right to come at us the way you did. its not the DJ problem if we dance the way we do. his job is to play music that we like and wanna hear wiether it's " GIVE ME THAT BECKY" or " I DON'T LIKE YOUR GIRL FRIEND"..like you said your being OLD FASHION..No one does this at a partyy like get over yourself miss ladyy..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaCn0P-G2lQ..And to my understand it not even your DAUGTHER it your NIECES. How can you as an adult say that we acted in a pornographic manner... And to my understand she is not even you DAUGHTER she is your.NIECES. YOUR Nieces never saw any students doin this she saw them dancin.. ..Like they said things have change.. our Teachers understand that.. and another thing Teacher were walkin around conrollin the party so don't try and sayy Teachers were jus there just because..You wasn't there miss ladyy so you don't know what went down at the party.. YOur daughter or NIECES did the right thing if she wasn't having fun.. she went home.. Why should everybodyy not have fun beacuse of one person is that fair.. NO.. MISS GET A LIFE WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES IN OUR LIFE WERE YOUNG HAVIN FUN.YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME AND STOP THIKIN ABOUT WHATS GOIN ON IN OUR SCHOOL.

Posted by Classof12 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

okay so everyone is tripping over a dance.
1st off thats just dumb.
all these parents out here are freaking out because their chils wanted to have some fun.
thats what happens when u shelter them, their gunna act out. so parents just get over it. its really not as bad as people are leading.whoever this chicks neice was, was probably just upset because she had no friends. Its just dumb, because she had a horrible time she was exxagerating about how "bad" it was.
yes there was grinding.you guys act like youve never done a sexual thing in ur life.
and yes we are high schoolers and were not adults yet.
you guys acting out to this is just gunna make us do it even more. if they even let us have another dance.
because of all you people who are complaining about something that u werent even there to witness, we might not be able to have something to look forward to.
you need to remember how you were.
and dont say u didnt do that kind of stuff. we all know you did.stop judging high school students for something you wouldve taken full advantage of at our age.
the world isnt so uptight anymore. were not scared to let loose and have some fun. learn to deal, because its not going anywhere.
also, the chaperones werent telling us no because they understand how us teens act.
and there was a teacher who said something.
but she approached it the wrong way.
instead of telling people no and to stop,
she decided to call every girl a whore and a slut to there face. she even told me to go to the parking lot and strip so she can get her moneys worth.
what kind of teachers are we highing.
i know people are gunna say thats good a teacher stood up to us. but u dont talk to 14-18 year olds like that.
especially if your a teacher.
no matter what is going on, u need to act ur age and and take things into a better hand.
because this is offenisve.
so stop worrying about what went on at a dance thats over with.
let ur children breathe.
get over it and move on.
and while you people are being so nosey, check out some other high schools out.
i can promise you, it gets worse.

Sophmores 2012:)
S.K

Posted by marcoari92 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BEING a student at NRHS I Felt very affended by waht that woman had to say! I am Senior and i haven't been to homecoming at all until saturday. It was my first homecoming. I had a great time with everyone there. I danced with a couple of guy's. When I read what that lady had to say I wanted to cry! Why? Because I danced I was "grinding" and I was having fun. And the things this OD guy saying about girls being a piece of meat and like getting humped like a dog. We dont, but Whats wrong with having fun. Its just dancing. Some girls were out of control having there dresses of there buts and bend over on the floor. SOme girls have class and some dont. But we are NRHS student. We know how to act in public. The administration did fine taking care of the student while they were there. One of the teachers were disscussded and i couldnt blame her. But there is no reason at all to sit there and call us out. Was this lady at even at the dance. So your daughter was uncomfortable or whoever then they shouldnt have come. But don't make us feel like trashy hoes and dogs and pieces of meet. Dont blame our parents because my mother is a wonderful woman and she she raised me right. So there really is no one balme. Grow up lady and pick in someone your age. get alife hag!!!!!!!

Airial R. Gary
NRHS Senior!

Posted by classof20012 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i am a NRSH student and yes i did go to the dance. i went with my gf and yes if ur wondering we did dance "grind". but that does not give u the right to call her a "PIECE OF MEAT" that goes for the other girls too, i know alot of the girls that were dancing and no they are not "PIECES OF MEAT". how dare you jugde some one you don't even know. How can an adult attack kids, there parents, and the administration. the only reason the editor wrote this articel is becouse her niece did not have fun at the dance. well what if she did? you probly wouldent of written this articel. you have no rite to call the students at nrhs what you have. please grow up!!!!! and stop acting so immature like you claimed we were being. I am a student that has a GPA of 3.0 i am going to make somthing of my life. with that you have no right to attack my freinds, family, my school, and the people i love.

-Eric Alderman
NRHS student Class of 2012
P.S. IF YOU HAVE SOMTHING TO SAY ABOUT ARE SCHOOL AND ARE AMAZING ADMINISTRATION, AND ARE GREAT STUDENTS PLEASE COME TO NRHS AND SAY IT DIRECTLY TO US!!!!!!!

Posted by kingj0394 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am also a student at NRHS and OD your words are disrespectful an can cut people deep. We go to the dance to have fun and if the person didn't enjoy themself then TOO BAD!!! Life isn't always gonna be what you expect and Ms. Salasse this isn't what you would call a dance but we had fun and thats the only thing that matters. Don't blame the administration, they work extremely hard to make sure that we learn as much as we can each day and they do a phenominal job at it. What give you the right to call the whole student body who attended the dance "whores", "hoochie mama's", "pornographic", and "sexual"? Ok, so some students took it too far, I can agree with you on that, but you are not God. You have freedom of speech, but there are some things that you just keep too yourself. Ms. Salasse, if this is what you imbue your time and anger with, then i have no respect for you at all. This is how teens dance and if you don't like it, then stay at home and let us live our lives while we can. Life is too short to argue over what happened at a dance that took place for 2 hours. Not even that, the DJ didn't even start playing real music until an hour and a half until the dance was over. GET OVER IT!!!!! Its over. To all the people who see eye to eye with me in this, thanks in advance.

Good Job; Jasmine, Kyle, and Jamika

Johnfre (Class of 2012)

Posted by NRHSWARRIOR09 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hey classof20012, r u the eric i no that is going out wit Jalenne?wow i rlly suck at spellin names. hahaha.

Posted by amalaff (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am confused exactly what type of music did you listen to when you were our age? Did you by any chance listen to AC/DC or Van Halen or even Salt N' Peppa? Because all of these artists had songs that had sexual references in them. AC/DC- You Shook Me All Night Long, Van Halen- You Really Got Me and Hot For Teacher and Salt N' Peppa- Push It. These songs are just the same as the ones we listen to now, true they may be a bit more upfront but they both have the same underlying meaning.

-Amanda Lafferty
NRHS Student Sophomore

Posted by kingj0394 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To jd1640, i'm sorry that people are labeling you vulgar names they probably don't even know you and there are prejudging you which is wrong on the highest levels.

Posted by classof20012 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes i am eric lol who is NRHSWARRIOR09 and nothing is going on with jailene

Posted by amalaff (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Also another note just because your niece can't be socially acceptable and talk to other people and enjoy herself with peers doesn't mean that NRHS is a whore school. Who are you to tell us that you are outraged? I would also like to comment that you didn't go to the dance so all of this stuff that you got was second had information. Also you told your story with words such as "I saw...". YOU WERE NOT AT THE DANCE YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING, your niece saw it!

-Amanda Lafferty
NRHS Student Sophomore

Posted by Ahlee010 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to state my opinion on the judgment’s made about Nansemond River High School. Whether it be known or not for those to make any kind of accusations about any student who attends this school to be portrayed as anything other than a student their thoughts are irrelevant to this whole situation. For parents to act as immature imbeciles it show just how childish an adult could be. For us student to stand behind our school in any threat to downgrade our own reputation shows great pride and shows how mature we could be in this predicament. I am, too, a senior at Nansemond river high school. I have attended every homecoming dance in my high school life. For thoughts to be made directly to this year and this school are extraneous. If you do not attend this school your accusations should had never be made. Judgment is going to go on for life but in any case we stand up for ourselves we are true persons to our own thoughts. We have a right to stand up and speak our mind.
Though, in some cases, statements made were true, for us to be portrayed as pieces of meat were unnecessary. I have taken part in this here “grinding” but never in my life will I be portrayed as someone who will only end up on a Maury show. That show itself is a show that is very unruly, and for you to compare us to that, shows your true self and how immature you could be. I believe that show is stupid and don’t care take to watch it. I believe there are better things to do than to sit there and watch such foolishness. Better yet, for those who have no life or nothing better to do than to pick on Nansemond River High School and watch this Maury show I guess that shows where your accusations our coming from, a mind of foolishness.
Every generation will have our own ways of dancing and for our generation to be counter attacked because adults see that it is wrong is a situation that will have to be dealt with. We do not know the things that went on in any generation before us but whether ya’ll were worse or better we cannot make any accusation because our generation was NOT THERE. I believe that any thought should be first hand. If you have no evidence, keep thoughts to yourself. If any person were there they would know that many attempts to get the DJ to play a “grinding” song were made. I do remember from a firsthand account that the DJ specifically told the crowd that the way we were dancing was not appropriate and that if it did continue than songs that WE wanted to listen to were not going to be played. Songs that we hear every day were played, it is not the DJ’s fault and if it was, every radio station that subjects us to these songs should be brought to attention. Everything done is for our entertainment and in our society we will always be subjected to inappropriate situations. If you feel that it is indeed necessary for you to judge us as individuals directing it to Nansemond River I believe that they should be kept to yourself unless proven........

Posted by Ahlee010 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Personally, I do not think anything did was wrong, authorities that were in charge at this dance did not sit there and were not just amused by it. You are definitely wrong about that. If you want to come to our school and see how things are run by all means do so. We have a strong administration I believe they are the best that any school could have. You cannot sit here and write false accusations about anything especially if you are not even part of this system. You do not know anything that goes on at this school, obviously. For you to accuse us for anything is revolted. Our school is a good school; we go through a lot and still continue to shine as we will in the future. Our future is ours that should be the main focus not any school dance. In every attempt to succeed there will always be a time for us to have a good time. Homecoming is a big deal for us until prom. We focus on homecoming for a week through homecoming week, the homecoming game, and homecoming dance. If you feel that you cannot par take in to be part of this what you call an outrageous display then bring your thoughts elsewhere. I hope that your judgment and any bad judgment made about are school will not affect anything that goes on in our school or any other. But for us student to stand up for our school, our administration, our city, and our authorities should over rule your thoughts. Yes we are kids, children, teenagers, and students. But none are we simple minded and I hope that you can see what we stand for. Never in my life have I been judged by an adult but your attempt to bring down this school ad bring down participants of our homecoming dance please believe that it will over power your any and every thoughts about us. .....

Posted by SumrJo92 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would first like to start off by thanking you for your opinion, however, this is to clarify what actually happened at the Nansemond River Homecoming Dance from someone who was ACTUALLY there the WHOLE time.

As Co-Chairwomen of the Homecoming Dance Committee, I speak on behalf of the Committee, when I say this letter is completely inaccurate, and does not display all sides of the story.

In this letter, the Nansemond River adminstration is said to have "just watched and enjoyed the show." This statement is absolutely false. The adminstrators were very active as chaperones, and would walk among the crowds of students to monitor their behavior. Accusing the adminstrators of encouraging this type of inappropriate behavior is questioning their moral character and their ability to control their students. The Nansemond River administration is a very capable and effective staff of distiniguished individuals who would NEVER encourage students to engage in "sexual acts" or "pornographic" behavior. Any type of misconduct is a product of student decision.

The D.J was accused of playing only "grind" music. This is not true. The student body was asking for this type of music, however the D.J did not oblige. The D.J actually reminded the students at the dance on more than one occasion to "dance like they're in a school." He was instructed by an administrator to be selective in song choice. Perhaps your niece left prior to these warnings.

The ultimate issue is what is the accepted norm of dancing today. Times have changed, and so have dance moves. In comparison to past controversial dance moves, things are more inappropriate, however, this is a reflection of society today, and NOT of Nansemond River High School.

Instead of sitting behind a computer, after the fact, and judging the situation, based soley on hear-say, you are invited to take a more active role and see first hand how we, NRHS students and staff conduct ourselves. Have you ever attended a NRHS student activity? Or do you just critize from afar?

The Homecoming Dance Committee works very hard each year to put together a dance that welcomes all students and will continue to do so.

I appreciate your concern, however, before you go accusing Nansemond River of condoning inappropriate behavior, please get the facts straight.

Nansemond River Warrior
Jordan Fontenot
NRHS '10

Posted by Ahlee010 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Condoning sex acts on school property” where ever are you getting your information from? With your article and your views about what you think a sex act is, is unreal. I do not see how dancing is said to be a sexual assault. As you can see I am very upset, offended, disappointed, frustrated, and disturbed by your scrutiny and by that of others and their comments. I guess that show that as life goes on things will never get better. But as I said life goes on and I will not let your deliberations affect what I have going for myself I just felt that it was my right to speak my mind on such as topic where I was involved. I feel that it is very unnecessary for your inferences. At school dances I do believe that we should be dancing. As long as we as students are not acting as adults do in their own bedrooms on the dance floor everything that you say is irrelevant. “Girls, young women and even others are just that meat, bitches and Hoes,” I feel that the person stating such words should really re-think the things they say. You give examples of how we were “supposedly” acting on Saturday night, but as I recall you were not a part of this event. You give specific examples of such sexual act, but you expect us not to think in these ways. The words used in this article and these comments are appalling and inappropriate. I feel tentative on how to take that ignorance stated in this whole page. I feel that my words spoken are a true example how I or any student should feel about this article and proclamations made. It’s degrading to have to sit here and read emotionally powerful words that were inferred about me and any young lady that was dancing at the homecoming. I am not ashamed to have my name available because I would like to show my feelings toward this topic. Alliannah Hamilton!!! And I would like to acknowledge my fellow classmates now and those graduated for backing Nansemond River up in such scrutiny. I LOVE NANSEMOND RIVER HIGH SCHOOL, and I will never in my days sit here and watch listen or read anyone who tries to bring down the mighty warriors.

--Alliannah Hamilton
Senior NRHS student

Posted by McBEASTIE (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well now parentals and old women with no life..and a niece with no friends and cant dance..

atleast were not in the streets committing crimes were on a school property not doing any harm to nebody. the dance was great i had fun jus becuz 1 person and a couple of old fashioned parents dont like the way we dance doesnt mean u go posting SHIZZ and putiinn SHIZZ in the DAYYUM newspaper are school is a high acredited skewl and we get 1 EFFING day when weve ben busting our patooties yes i said patooties so far this year to let loose and have fun and grind on multiple ppl and see who can make the longest grinding line (19 ppl btw we won!! yay!!) tha DJ was whack at times but honestly he couldve been worse. but the bttr issue at hand is mrs. francis goin around calling students prostitutes and whor3s and saying take ur clothes off and maybe ull get ur moneys worth??!!! ru kidding me honestly an adult along with the ppl complaining abt a dance should know better and to b more mature grow up go read ur encyclopedias with ur reading glasses and leave the WARRIORS alone! p.s my parents grind so boo flippin hoo cuhh!!

CIARA S. aka CC..aka FLIP aka.McBEASTIE
CLASS OF 2012 !!!

Posted by amalaff (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And if you are really that concerned about what goes on in public schools, enroll your niece in a ALL GIRLS PRIVATE SCHOOL. They have no fun there and they don't "grind" or "freak dance". I'm sorry you are so appalled at public school, but there are other choices. Grow up, put your big girl panties on and give your niece the sex talk!

-Amanda Lafferty
NRHS student Sophomore

Posted by McBEASTIE (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IS UR CHILD PREGNANT BECUZ OF THE DANCE ?? IF THE ANSWER IS NO BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!!.

OR JUS DONT LET THEM GO TO THE DANCE AGAIN BOTTOM LINE ..
GET THEM DANCE LESSONS MAYB

Posted by bet23 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am also a student at NRHS and it angers me that you make our school sound like trash. You make it sound like we're the only school who does it, but we're not. Everywhere people do this. And I'm not saying just because everyone else is doing it means it's ok, I'm not saying that at all. But you make it sound like we're a horrible school, and we're not. You just need to wake up to reality and realize we're not in the 1950's anymore.
And also, you weren't actually at the dance! Your neice was, and you only got her side of the story. And as someone else said earlier, those videos were only showing the worst part of the dance. I've heard from numerous of my peers that later on the assistant principle Mrs. Bibbo went through the crowd of kids and broke some of them up and i also heard that they even had one of the cops going around and flashing lights on some of the people dancing to make sure they weren't doing anything "pornographic." So the administrators did not sit back and "enjoy the show." Your neice most likely left before that even happened, so she only got to see that bad perspective of the dance. Like I said, i go to Nansemond River, and I KNOW that Mr. Mclemore would not just sit there and watch his students do inappropriate stuff. You're just going to have to get used to the fact that people dont do the bump anymore and that this is how teens dance.
So get used to it. As far as I know, the dancing isn't changing anytime soon.

Posted by Watt (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you try and stop this type of dancing i can bet that no students that actually like this type of dancing or think its even fun will not come to these school events then the school will not be able to have these events because your niece has social problems. Ever think of that?!

Junior at Nansemond River High

Class of 2011!!!!

Posted by brighteyes029 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm an junior at Nansemond and I attended the dance. When I read this I was upset at how our school and administration was portrayed. Half of the things in this article weren't even true. She got second hand information. She can't say that because that was definitely not the case. When we were caught dancing "inappropiately" we were told to stop and sometimes sat down. Also, I don't at all think its okay to call high school girls out of their names just because of the way we dance. I was one of the ones that was "grinding" but I don't think there is anything wrong with that. This is our generation and this is just how we dance. Its not going to change. As for the supposed videos, none of the people that I know or that attended the dance have seen the videos. If anybody sees them please let me know.

My main point is don't blame the administration, school, or dj. We are teenagers and we are gonna dance how we want to.

T'Keyah Johnson
NRHS Junior :)

Posted by CariCheers (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I attended the homecoming dance and while there was some innappropriate dancing and music, it is no reason to state that the females that attended the dance were allowing thmselves to be disrespected. Yes, I did dance. Was it in a way that was disrespectful to myself or others? No. To say that girls at the dance were allowing other persons there to disrespect them is simply not true. I could come up with a list of more than half of the females that attended that were not being disrespected by anyone. I was not disrespected and will never allow myself to be disrespected or treated as a piece of meat. That statement ("From what I saw, it was not dancing that was taking place at Nansemond River High School; it was mating. Girls were allowing themselves to be disrespected, to be treated as pieces of meat.")was false. Lastly, the statement was made based off what you saw, and that was neither much nor every female at the dance.

-Cariana Taliaferro,
NRHS Sophmore

Posted by imacanno (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I attended the Homecoming Dance as well. I would like to say that Evelyn Salasse is pretty bold to post a statement and degrade children of our future (rather you think so or not). I’m shocked to see that an adult can post such ignorant things about something they didn’t even take part in. On top of that, can assume for others of how girls are at the school. Whoever your niece is she must not get out much and neither do you. If you have gone to a club you will know that what took place at the dance was nothing near what happens at clubs. Before you assume anything you should have FACTS and PROOF of what transpired. I’m upset that you can downplay the school your niece attends and not think anything of it. How dare you insult our administrators you know none of them and they intervened when it was needed. Your niece is overacting and so are you. We have an excellent principal and administrators; we are the best school in SUFFOLK. Do some research about us and our standards before you speak for everyone who attends!Fact or the matter is, it is irrelevant about what you or any other person thinks about us, we all know who we are as individuals and know right from wrong. Some of these comments posted are really amusing, I cannot believe ADULTS act in this manner! Yet these are the same people who are telling other children about their parents. The DJ did nothing wrong he did his job which was to entertain his audience. He even did it a step up by not playing provocative music, with the exception of one song. It is not his fault, so don’t talk about as if it is.

Posted by imacanno (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

continued....
OD, you are truly an ignorant individual these posts are strictly suppose to be held in a respectable manner. However, you single individuals out and try to play mind games. Honestly, you act like a child and I wonder what did your parents teach you? Obviously, not enough manners and respect you should show all individuals. OD, you are also constantly talking about a particular “culture”, and I would like to know exactly which one. Your statement about, “girls, young women and even others are just that meat, bitches and hoes”, who are you to tell anyone about themselves? Evelyn Salasse, “mating” was extremely overboard, I hope you were lost for words. No one was mating at all; no one came out pregnant or even with eggs to lay. You jeopardize my Senior Prom. This is a lesson to those who are outraged and distraught about the things being posted about their high school; to how people are in the real world and how they can be so cruel with their words. No matter what a person assumes about my high school; or about how we conduct ourselves as young ladies and gentleman I know who and what I am. I have an excellent plan lined up for me when I graduate and I plan to do more extravagant plans will my life (it will not be on the Maury Show). I will be able to look back in my life at people like you and laugh, because you will get nowhere in life trying to bring others down.
-Imani Cannon
Nansemond River High School Class of 2010

Posted by SHAQDABLAC (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'M NOT GONE WRITE NO LONG STORY, OR NUN OF DAT..ALL YALL GROWN FOLKS TRIPPIN OVA THEM DANCIN...PLEASE GET OVER IT..I'M A PRODUCT OF NRHS & WE DONT PROMOTE SEXUAL ACTIVITY AT SCHOOL RELATED EVENTS. I THINK YALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT TIMES HAVE CHANGED, ALOT, THIS IS NOT THE 80'S, 70'S, ETC. THIS IS HOW WE HAVE FUN, AND THATS JUST HOW IT IS. HA!
LOOSERS!

& IF U THINK THEIR DANCING IS "PORNOGRAPHIC"..U SHOULD COME 2 A COLLEGE PARTY..LOLZ
CHECK IT OR RESPECT IT...

SHAQ/BLAC
NRHS CLASS OF 2009

Posted by jazODU13 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Shaq, because at a college party there are drugs, alcohol, and sex. LOTS OF IT, I was surprised....let it go. Its dumb.

Posted by piercejyms (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I understand how upset the NRHS students are about the fallout from the article posted in this paper. I don't teach at NRMS but I have taught hundreds of the students who attend the school when they were 8th graders. What the public needs to understand is that NRHS has an amazing student body with a wonderful faculty and administration leading them.
As a parent and as a teacher, I have some problems with the sexual lyrics that have become prevalent in much of the popular music today. This is not limited to rap groups either. However, while cringing at some of the lyrics, I honestly enjoy the beat and sound to a lot of these current songs. I wonder why musicians feel the need to be so explicit when their songs would be just as enjoyable with other lyrics.
This problem is not limited to music. Our movies, television shows and even teen contemporary authors are including sexual scenes among teens as commonplace. I don't know what the solution is, but I believe most people will agree that this is true.
As far as the dance goes, I am sure there was some inappropriate dancing conducted by some students. However, the majority of the students conduct themselves well and the behavior at NRHS is not any different than any other high school in our area. My sister chaperoned the dance at West Point high school and commented on this type of dancing by students who she knows are "nice kids."
I am so glad the student asked to be picked up early because she was uncomfortable at the dance. I try to teach my students to make good choices and that was an example of one. I ask the other NRHS students to please not blame her because of the backlash their school has received. She went home early which was the right thing to do.
Mr. McLemore and the rest of the administration run a great high school. It is a SAFE school filled with amazing kids and teachers. Let's allow them to have positive memories of a fun night for most and move on.

Posted by jnicole32 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i want to say first of all that i was at the dance and i saw the dancing and the majority of it was bad, but i know i didnt do any of the grinding myself. i danced with my friends and enjoyed myself( it was my first homecoming class of 2013!!!) and i didnt like the way this lady whoever she is tried to say that all of the girls were peices of meat and degraded themselves. i know i carried myself very well and well i cant speak for others. i think that if it was that bad the chaperones should have intervened or they should have stopped the dance. oh and this lady's neice probably started the grinding trains. but anyway i dont think people should freak out because we are teenagers and i know alot of people who are doing worse things than dancing provacatively. oh and i know some of you adults did things like that when you were our age or worse so let us have our fun and learn from our own mistakes. NRHS is one of the best schools in suffolk and i helped decorate for that dance from 9 oclock satuday morning until 3 in the afternoon so yes im definitley gonna defend it.

Nellie32
Class of 2013

Posted by anjelly2011 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am in complete awe at this situation this whole debate started over second hand information. Yes, we are teenagers were going to have fun and in this day in age that is how we dance like or not that is the way it is and you cannot change it. Most of what has been said was blown WAY out of context, so I am going to do my job and briefly clarifying everyone’s concerns and opinions. First, let me start off by saying the dance was wack. Not by the way the students were dancing, but by the music. To be honest the DJ has nothing to do with the way the students chose to dance, there was no hypnotizing of the mind through the music. It’s the way things are, that’s how the teens are dancing nowadays. Just to help you further understand let me give you an example. The different songs that were played consisted of pop and Michael Jackson, please raise your hand if you know a song by Michael that you can grind to………. Oh take your time I’ll wait. I’ll be waiting for sometime because there is not one I can think of because there isn’t. Lastly, I am appalled at how a grown woman can actually say such things about kids. Seriously grow up; you have spent your time debating a subject that you were not even present for. I admit yes there was “grinding” but not to the extent of demeaning NRHS and the students. Not only you, but any others who were not mature enough to look at the overall picture. Its high school, were kids, it happened, and now let it go. Don’t get me wrong stating you opinion is you right but when you go so far as to say things that take offense to others you have gone too far. Next time anyone feels they need to speak their opinion go by it in a manner that can be respected; just be mature about it and look at the overall picture.
P.S. Oh and actually be there when it happens because second hand information doesn’t get you very far.
PROUD NRHS STUDENT,
AnJelica Caperton

Posted by mikacheek (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 7:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is to everyone who posted comments on the article that attend NRHS. I know that you are filled with anger and frustration about what is being said about us, but you have to remember, we cannot stoop to their level. We cannot represent our school as well as ourselves by cursing or disrespecting those that have opinions about us, no matter how false they may be. It does not help our case. We should show that we are better than that. We should hold our heads up high and ignore the accusations made against us. We've gotten through plenty before. This is merely another obstacle that by pushing through it, will prove we are mature young adults. Who cares what these people think? We know who we are and what we do. Let's just click on the small red X at the top of the screen, and go about our lives.
XoXo- Jamika Bivens

Posted by kels11 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I attended that dance on Saturday, and I had a GREAT time dancing. Just because your niece went to a dance she didn’t like, who cares!?

HOW DARE you insult our administrators, students, or teachers? Mr. Mac is the best principal in Suffolk….as are the rest of the administrators. As for the teachers, they are great too, hence the reason we have AMAZING test scores and the lowest drop-out rate in Suffolk. Do you know the people you are saying did not do their job? I happen to know many of them personally, and I take offense that you would dare to insinuate such ludicrous things. All of the chaperones walked around THE ENTIRE TIME.

As for the “meat” statement, once again HOW DARE YOU! Why don’t you all get off your high horse and realize that your time has come and gone. And by mating, what do you mean? Because I don’t recall anyone getting it on….oh that’s right, it DIDN’T happen. And honestly, “hoochie mama?” Whoever said that is DISGRACEFUL, and obviously doesn't have much self-worth if you have to pass judgment on teenagers for entertainment. You all are the most IMMATURE group of adults.

So what if your niece didn’t have a good time. So what, if WE had a great time while she left. So what, if your poor little niece IS EMBARRASSED AS ALL GET OUT for you having posted this article. Honestly, did you think of the consequences for your niece, who actually attends this school? Didn’t think so Evelyn.

Did any of you who are denouncing our homecoming dance actually attend? NO! So where do you come by saying that sexual stimulation was taking place on the dance floor?? Oh that’s right Evelyn, you didn’t go.

Another thing….all of that money was raised by the students’ ticket purchases. Excuse us for paying to go to something where we actually get to let loose and have fun. We go to school for 6 hours a day, 5 days a week, 180 days of the year. HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT WE WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING OR END UP ON THE MAURY SHOW??!!

Don’t act like any of you adults never engaged in such behavior. Don’t be a hypocrite, because every single one of you is making yourself sound like a FOOL!

We as students know what went on at that dance and it definitely was not as big a deal as what you are calling our “chains of students grinding male groin to female derriere. I saw girls pulling up their dresses and sticking their behinds out to encourage sexual touching. It was pornographic.”

Honestly, none of that happened, so move on. You as adults are ignoble when you are trying to act so much “better than thou.” I have no respect for any of you that are passing such judgments. The fact that you took the time to write an article about our awful dancing is stupid.

If you don’t want your kids attending a so called “freak dancing” homecoming, by all means, KEEP THEM HOME! We sure could use the extra space on the dance floor for MORE of our grinding!

Posted by Classof12 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 7:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

haha Evelyn Salasse you probably just became the most hated woman in suffolk. imma laugh when ur neices name gets released. then your rly guna wanna inrole her in a private school, that child is gunna be going to skewl in hell.
you just dont say that about young ladies, that just says alot about you. which makes ur SECOND HAND facts more rediculous. and shows the kind of "adult" are.
were immature? haha u keep pointing, u got 4 fingers pointing back at you.
next time u have something degrading to say, why dont u keep it to urself instead of ranting about it.
now no one is going to believe anything you say.
we got our schools back 100%.
as u can obviously see.
so thanks for lying to all of the city.
we appreicate it.

Posted by shanhoop5 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

imma student at NRHS and i was at the dance. the dance was alot of fun but this is 2009 and we do "grind". thats the new style out now sorry if you dont like it then your child shouldnt be attending these types of parties. they should be going to the little birthday parties were you sing happy birthday and blow out candles. the girls at NRHS are NOT hoes or sluts or anything they just now how to have fun and enjoy themselfs

Shannon Evans
student at Nansemond River High

Posted by Jorge (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I just think that what is done is done and it is time to move on from this subject.

Posted by warriorpride10 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a senior at NRHS and I have read comments and realize that this conversation is getting nowhere. Times have changed and I agree that to the generation before us view the dancing is unacceptable. Personally, I even think that the dancing is too provocative and could be toned down, but arguing about it and posting stuff on Suffolk News Herald is not going to do anything except for give the school and the students that attend it a bad reputation.

I did not go to the dance, but I am still included when people think of NRHS students dancing and grinding at homecoming. There are 1400 students in NRHS and only 600-700 students at homecoming. So what does that mean for the other 700-800 that did not attend the dance and the students that were at the dance, but didn't grind?

Teens in high school are old enough to make their own choices and that is what they do. Even with appropriate music, teens will find some way to grind if they feel it completely necessary. Don't judge the whole school or even the little group that were grinding because of one dance. I know some of the people that were probably grinding at the dance and most of them are going to be honors graduates or earn honor roll or straight A's or are just good people overall. Dancing is one small insignificant matter when you look at the whole picture of who someone is and what a school is like. NRHS is a very good high school, but from one night of grinding by a few students we earn a bad reputation?...somehow that just does not seem right to me.

Posted by itscalliebabyy (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

alright, really..what does this dumb article do for ANYONE? what was the point of her niece coming home and telling her aunt about this? she must have been some lowlife nerd girl who didn't have anyone to dance with her OR SOMETHING, because honestly, that was extrememly pointless. it's not just nansemond river, there are many other schools who have probably danced MUCH worse than what you are implying on us. nansemond river is an amazing school, attempting to put us down is ridiculous just because of a dance. i'm tired of pretty much everyone these days; they think they are greater than us which they have probably done nastier things than a school dance.
evelyn, if you seriously had a problem, why didn't you go to the school about it? why didn't you say something to the board instead of gossiping online? i can't believe i'm having to talk to an ADULT this way. i'm proud to say i'm a warrior, just like everyother girl or boy from river who had something to say.
in all honesty, you are pathetic.

callie hensler,
nansemond river student, junior.

Posted by warriorpride10 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Also, I do not think whatsoever that Salasse's niece should be given a hard time if her name is found out. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. We don't know that her niece asked her to put this article up, all we know is that her niece wasn't having fun due to the type of dancing and went home early. Yea, she might have told her mom and aunt why she was home early, but at the same time that is her and I am sure she has friends at NRHS. She wasn't giving the school a bad look, she was just stating that it wasn't her scene and she went home early. Give the girl a break, she's only in high school.

Posted by itscalliebabyy (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

but hahahah at Classof12 ; AMEN TO THATTT. when we find out who she is, we're going to torment her with this FOREVER.
everyone else from our schoool,
i got respect for you now, (:

Posted by reddunique (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am beyond tired of hearing about the stupidity of this article , how much time do you have on your hands to right a bunch of inaccurate nonsense ? If you had a problem you should have simply spoken to one of the administrators about it ; though you decided to be public and attempt to bring our school down , it was so uncalled for . & to the wanna-be adult , how dare you call someone's CHILD a "hoochie mama" , your a very ignorant person ( lacking knowledge ; incase you didn't know) . & to my fellow students of Nansemond , I say we don't even entertain the ingorance of some of these comments , its pointless ! They're definitely entitled to their opinion , and let that be that . They're obviously not aware that dancing does not in way define you as a person or a "hoochie mama" . & Evelyn , obviously your niece is a freshman and has been sheltered from the outside world, I can only imagine how her college experience will turn out .& why don't you go find a hobby , writing in the newspaper just isn't for you . (:

oh, i almost forgot ..
the Maury show ? seriously .
lets be real what in the world does dancing have to do with the maury show ?
if your going to try to argue with someone at LEAST have some kind of sense, you have TOO much time on your hands, get a life .

Becky, was actaully the edited version , and if its not suitable for a dance then , they should'nt play it on the radio . & You all are critizing today's musical lyrics but noone are talks about RKelly's 'bump&grind' or The Isley Brothers 'between the sheets' ... shall i go on ?

NRHS , STUDENT
CLASS OF 0'11

Posted by CS1523 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear Ms.Evelyn Salasse

I can clearly see that you are upset by the video you have seen.Now i want to ask you a very serious queston...Were you there to see that not all the students that attended the dance did not as you "grid". As a female student of NRHS i am shocked that you slandered the female students as a whole stateing that we were allowing ourselves to be treated as pieces of meat. Yes there were a certain few of students who were"griding" but you can't sit here and accuse every female as well as male students for doing something you saw on a video on YOUTUBE! An for you to also to imply that the staff there that night as perverts is down right perposturous. Because i can assure every student they saw"griding"they pulled them apart.An for the choice of the dj playing "Give me that Becky"was bold you have to realize it's just a song. And i grantee if you were to go up to any student at NRHS and ask what that song means 10 out of 10 i bet they couldn't tell you. Because we don't listen to the words we just listen to the beat of the song.An other question if your niece would not have left early becasue of her lack of having fun would you have posted this.I think not because you would have never known what went on at the dance.So the next time you think about posting something like this don't unless you were there to witness the events at the dance.

Posted by Reppin2012 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Man all the adults need to chill cuz you cant judge a whole school by how they dance.and truthfully your niece may not be popular but its okay though. so if you got sumthing to say get at me
:P
Student of NHRS
Class of 2012

Posted by reddunique (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

& where is this youtube video, that i've heard so much about ?? haven't seen it yet . hmm maybe it doesn't exist !

Posted by destinyismyne (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jorge- That is a good comment. So, let it be said. so,let it be done. I would love to see the students comment more on a variety of subjects. The thinking around Suffolk, perhaps by many, is the students don't really care. So, express yourselves more on other articles appearing in this paper. If you do I think you will find it rewarding.
In my 50 years of reading this paper I have never seen such a student outcry.
You have made your point. Now, it is time to get back to your school work.

Posted by CS1523 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I going to have agree with all my fellow NRHS school mates "grinding"is just a dance and yes we kids do it but never to the extreme when its consider as have sex on a dance floor. And for the little minded person who said we would end up on the Maury Show grow up and get a life and so long as i have air in my lungs and a beating heart in my chest don't ever blaime Mr. Mac or any parents or parent for a way a child acts. Because if you were a real parent would you have told or lectured your child on the way they dance just like any other parent would. An again to Ms.Evelyn Salasse never in your life do you say such lies about NANSEMOND RIVER HIGH again.Thank you and have a nice day and let it be known you are now the most hated woman at NRHS

-Courtney Salley-
-Class of ''11''-

Posted by KatieT (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LADIES and any Gentlemen out there,

This discussion is getting old. Quite frankly, I don't know why people are taking this opportunity to get so upset. Grinding has been around for a while now, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Ms. Salasse, but this is how things are. Am I condoning it? Not in the least. Do I think it is appropriate? No. But regardless of whether we like it or not, perhaps all of us should take a step back and breathe. Just as any controversial subject, some people are going to agree with it while other won't. It's okay, people. SOME kids grind. SOME are practically having sex, but I did not come here to state the obvious.

It seems as though, as you probably know by now, your ASSumptions have been a bit mislead, Salasse. Our administrators did in fact threaten to call the whole dance off if they saw kids "dancing" in extremely inappropriate ways. How do I know? I was there. Were you? No, you were not. Please do not disgrace our administration who were trying so hard to make this dance a positively memorable one. To even read that you said the "school administrators just watched and enjoyed the show" disgusted me. How could you make such a subjective statement that is indeed not a fact? As a writer, I would like this opportunity to say shame on you. You know the difference between writing to catch people's attention and crossing the line, and you have crossed the line. To deny our administrations' honor like that is sickening. Our chaperons did the best of their ability to watch what we were doing, but there were 500 kids and only a handful of them.

Posted by KatieT (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 9:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

CONTINUED:
And in response to the ridiculous things some of the previous commentators have said, namely OD and SurprisingSuffolkNot- please. How old are you, and how old are we? There shouldn't be so small a gap in the level of maturity we are emitting. Yes, SurprisingSuffolkNot, let's all get along, by agreeing to disagree and not insulting high school students' intelligence. Most of the students here have been making excellent points and they should be commended, not ridiculed. I also must add that the utterly stereotypical comments made by OD deserve a swift tar and feathering of the-for lack of a better word- author. Come on! If you live in Suffolk, or even America, you should not be so quick to label our students as future Maury Show guests. What kind of America do you expect to see with that attitude?

To all of the students that have made good, logical and proper comments, thank you for representing the majority of us. Please do not be upset by the bumbling idiots that have nothing better to do than bash high school students. Remember: this is what we are trying to avoid later in life.

With utmost Sincerity,
Katie W. Taylor
Volunteer Organization of Integrated Communities Envisioned Vice President
BETA Club Vice-President
International Thespian Society Member
Big Brothers Big Sisters Group Leader
Friend, member and supporter of the Mighty Warriors
Common Sense advocate and,
NRHS Class of 2010.

Posted by 0183 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 10:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In repsonse, No i am not embarrased about the dance if anything I am quite frankly just amazed and entertained by peoples reations. By the way our school along with every other school in the state of Virginia has police present during regular school hours and any school sponsored event, to ensure everyones safety beacuse of events like Columbine.So I do not appreciate you implying that our school had police present because we are badly behaved students because that is very far from the truth.

B.H "that Class of 2012, of course"

Posted by warriorpride10 (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 10:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you sooo much Katie aka Guildenstern haha! :) I think you may have the best comment on this whole article. I agree with you 100%.

-The Queen or Gertrude :)

Posted by KatieT (anonymous) on October 22, 2009 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tis my duty, dear Gertrude

Posted by RockEWarrior (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 5:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Katie ...
you go girl! Your comments were totally appropriate and well expressed. You are definitely a part of "Warrior Pride"
RockE.

Posted by kels11 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 5:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

anyone actually seen this video..? because i think it doesn't really exist.....

Posted by piercejyms (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 6:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Carry yourselves with dignity & pride, Warriors, and move on to bigger and better things. Show the community that you are as wonderful as your teachers, administrators, and parents know you are by letting this go & preserve your Homecoming memories from last week-end. It's a new week-end & your football team needs your support tonight. See you at the game?

Posted by batman (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQd3Kawv_...

Posted by dbsalerno (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good points, piercejyms.

The lyrics of popular music today, especially in the hip-hop and rap genres, are my biggest frustration as a DJ today.

As I've said before, I have pretty high standards, and will not play anything at a dance that I wouldn't feel comfortable playing to the children's parents. I struggle hard to find "clean" versions and "radio edits", but even then I sometimes have to go back and remove bad words. Forget about using the original versions for many of these songs.

What's sad is that most kids dance to these songs because of the music--they have a good beat and are easy to dance to. It probably wouldn't matter much if the songs had no words at all. But why these artists feel they have to fill their songs with offensive lyrics, I have no idea.

As a DJ, I have to constantly remember that the kids in my audiences are sometimes as young as 11. I have to be extremely selective with the music that I play. If I play a song that encourages "grinding", I should not be surprised if or when it happens. And if I see the chaperones having difficulty stopping certain behavior that is caused by a song I'm playing, I have a responsibility to help them out by changing the music, making an announcement, etc. I take very seriously what I do, but also have a good time doing it, and really enjoy seeing the kids have good, safe, clean fun.

It's a very fine line, playing current dance and hip-hop music that kids enjoy dancing to, while keeping the lyrics clean and the musical styles appropriate for the age group you're playing for. But I like to think I'm pretty successful at doing it. The kids always seem to enjoy themselves at my dances, and the parents seem to appreciate that I play music that's appropriate.

(continued)

Posted by dbsalerno (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

(continued from previous post)

I wasn't there, so I have been hesitant to say anything about the way the problem was handled by the chaperones, etc. However, I do DJ at several Suffolk Public Schools, and have for the past 15 years, and every dance I have ever done has been very well chaperoned. Inappropriate behavior was discouraged and stopped as soon as it was noticed. I have even had a principal use my mic and threaten to stop the dance if certain behavior continued (I think it was as innocent, but still dangerous, as running around and bumping into each other). Plus I have found the students to be generally well behaved, and obedient to authority whenever they do cross the line as kids sometimes do.

Nonetheless, teens do test the limits, and there may well have been some teens there that night that were "grinding", stopped when confronted by a chaperone, but then continued to do so after the chaperones looked away. But that speaks more about the character of those individual students than it does about the chaperones or the entire student body.

Concerning the comments from the NRHS students, let me say this. Yes, "grinding" is the way some teens dance now. And yes, your current dance styles are as different from my mine (I'm 42) as mine were from my parents'. Each generation claims its own territory in terms of music, dance styles, etc. However, the administration at your school and the chaperones at your dances have every right to draw the line at certain behavior and dances, to keep the dance respectful, clean, and fun for everyone. Show your character and respect that line. </soapbox>

School dances like the Homecoming Dance at NRHS are difficult to chaperone, with so many kids and a large, poorly-lit area to watch, and I have the utmost respect for the people who give of their time to make sure that kids have a safe, fun place to come to on a Friday or Saturday night. I also respect the students that come out and behave properly and enjoy themselves at the school dances. That's why I am proud to help with the dances at Suffolk Public Schools, and do all I can to help make them happen.

Keep up the good work, piercejyms. Hope to see you next Friday night at the JYMS dance...

Posted by proudnrhsparentof2 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a very pround parent of two mature, intelligent, young men at NRHS, and I am offended not just for me,but for the entire NRHS family. I send my sons to NRHS with confidence that they will be safe and maintain the dignity that they have worked so hard for.How dare someone blacken my son Senior year with this darkness!!!!!! If the aunt was so concern with the action of the students, go to the parents! We are the foundation in which change can grow! What you don't do ,is breakdown the entire school with gossip and kill the school spirit... My son is disgusted with this, he has worked hard to maintain his positive attitude, his 3.5 GPA, and his status in the committee!! These are minors not adults, you parade them like criminals are you serious!!!!! Then Auntie you stated and I quote "In my day, if you did this on a date, it was considered a sexual act" what day was that 1902!!!!!! This is crazy and unfounded!! Find a hobby,read a book, or get man because obviously you are bored out of your mind!!! To the NRHS students keep your head up God is there!!

Posted by destinyismyne (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Your postings have given me an insight as to how the students and parents react, think, write to certain situations. I will have to study this information for an unspecified report.
In the past, there have been a lot written about your school in this paper.
The news have been good, bad, and ugly. In most cases there was not a single response. Now you know there is a media outlet that lets you voice your concerns, I'm hoping that you will read and write more. If you do that, perhaps your concerns will reach the right persons.
I am concerned about something else that really matters. It is NRHS academic standings in the state and city. In High School rankings, NRHS ranked 277 out of 319 in the state, placing the school in the lower 13 percent. In fact, the school dropped in rankings 32 spots from the previous year. Whereas, Kings Fork HS and Lakeland HS ranked 259 and 270 respectively. Kings Fork was the only high school in the city showing improvement from the previous year.
I applaud NRHS for lowering its drop out rate. But I would applaud it even more if the "take out" rate increased. (the "take out" means knowledge retained in the head.)
The above information is not heresay. Some of It was published in this newspaper on Sept 23,2009 in an article titled, "Suffolk has too many falling stars" by Grady Bryant.
In school year 2008-2009 NRHS did not meet Virginia's "Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP)" standards. The ratings for AYP and accrediation are based on the achievement of students tests taken.
So, the goals this year should include meeting the AYP standards, improving at least 100 spots in rankings, and increasing the "take out" volume.
You have expressed yourselves well about the dance, now its time to go in the classroom and make an academic expression.

Posted by NRHSstudent (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i am a student at NRHS and i attended the dance. first off yes kids were "grinding" but that doesn't give u the rite to call us pieces of meat. Second the faculty did try and stop this so called "grinding" so don' t try and say that the staff at NRHS just stood there and had a show to watch. everyone has a different way that they dance and so did u when u grew up..... or if u even have grown up yet. im sorry that ur niece did not have a good time but other students as well as i did...had a good time. also if ur niece does not like that kind of dancing she shouldn't have come.... any dance that u go to people are going to dance that way. we are not in the 50's or 60's anymore we don't do the macarana or "the bump." learn how to act your age and next time tell your niece to stay home. LEAVE NRHS ALONE AND DROP THIS STUPID CHILDISH STUFF....WE ARE FULLY ACCREDITED AND WE LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME. to my fellow NRHS piers lets keep our heads high and have an amazing rest of our year.

student at NRHS
Class of 2013

Posted by JimboSlice (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is so stupid i don't understand why someone is attacking us like this they have no idea who we are or what we do. this is us and if they have a problem with that who really cares. i mean why does it matter if she thinks its disrespectful to grind and dance how we do we don't find it disrespectful and that is what really matters over all right. I think we proved our point because that "OD" person is not attacking us any more so i guess we win. Now we have as many wins as our football team go us.

Marius "Jimmy" Cholewa
NRHS SENIOR!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Dreon (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LETS SEE NOW. I don't understand what simple minded individual would believe one person's perspective of something "her niece" says without getting any hear say from anybody else. That is acting so immature cause in the high school life we hear things and we even have the since enough to keep it to ourselves, you blew this way out of proportion for number one, with calling us sexual criminals, and saying we should have been arrested. "wow your smart" I am a ninth grade student and know that when something is said you need to ask around to get the truth, you took one persons saying and blew that up into this "GROW UP" and i am pretty sure your niece was there doing the same dances we were. How can you come out your mouth to obligate something such as that when you didn't even attend the dance,and then have the nerve to question our administrators. We have the best administrators in the hole city of Suffolk and if anything that wrong or outrageous was going on somebody would of stepped in an said something. Now's here's a little advice for you "Go to sleep wake up again and take a look at a calender an see what year and generation your in mam cause apparently you forgot". I am doing this to represent my students and friends at NRHS and the people who attended that dance. So we will not be looked bad at over something this stupid.

Thank You

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To all who are upset. To the few who also stated they were concerned on what took place both adults and students To those students you to say get a life etc etc.
What maybe some of us dont understand is why and how this song with the vile lyrics could be played at a high school function. Why didnt the 'adults" there stop it in its tracks? Why didnt the adults take better control of the kids, the dancing and the atmosphere.yes one was right in saying the cops had to be there because of what took place in Colorado.With gangs and violence that we experiecne every day you dont think that maybe some of us old f***s arent concerned? A great example is the last killing of a honor roll student by thugs and punks up north who think that living the lifestyle that is promoted in the music is acceptable in society because its a culture thing?
In response to the comment on Barry Manilow, us old f***s dont listen to him either. All im saying is IF ALL of what was said, fact or not is that its ones opinion that things were not as they should be. I had a teacher from the NRHS tell me that the students dont respect the staff, thus a general opinion was formed. If you understand my thoughts on this and how this event 'got out of hand, as a parent being concerned, i want to ask what if this had taken place at a pvt venue or a home and the ADULT wanted to be a friend and pal who supplied beer/booze or yes even drugs and you didnt make it home? What would you expect from a concrened parent then, even thou its pvt and not public or being held on public property such as a school. Just a thought guys. Responsibilty isnt just a adults role.

Posted by TBSuffolk (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Destinyismyne and others....I think you are misinterpretting information regarding NRHS. First of all, out of the 3 public high schools in Suffolk, it is the best one. It's academics, scholarship receipients, extracurricular activities, and programs overall are the best. AYP was missed by 1/2 a point...in one very specific area. SOL's are highest at NRHS in comparision to most Chesapeake, VAB, Norfolk, and Portsmouth schools. And yes, the highest in Suffolk. The students there are kind and caring and work hard. You are judging based on a data that is not interpretted correctly in the media and locals like to jump on in order to put the school and school system down.

Posted by SENIOR2010 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well lets all give it up for Dreon!!

i am a senior at nansemond river high school and i attended the dance! i would just like to say i agree with everything that Dreon had to say.... how in the world could you take something that only your niece has said and blow up on us and are school administrators as you did.. and your telling all of us to GROW UP!! Well i know for a fact that i am mature and i dont care what you have to say about that. The only reason i am up here writing this now is because i am sticking up for my follew students, teachers, and the rest of the staff!

our administrators were just enjoying the show? well i believe otherwise in fact many of the teachers and staff told different students that we needed to dance like we were at school and even sent some girls home because their dresses were to short. I also remember them stopping the music telling the DJ that he had to stop playing certain music because of the dancing.

Also did you not say that you niece left early.... well she obviously missed a lot of the story so you should have kept your month shut from the beginning instead of basicly saying we are all sluts waiting to get some!

From what i have learned though my life is if your were not there to experience it or hear it keep your month closed and moved on... yeah you can go ahead and say what you want to your friends or family members but this is just ridiculous. I can not believe that an adult yourself would get up here and say half of the things that you did! this is a new age so why dont you just get use to that and let us handle what we do best and worry about yourself and your niece!

please and thank you

Posted by NrhsStudent123 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This needs to stop, Im a 12th grade student at NRHS, and we have the best administration, students, and teachers. You need to get over that fact that were just having fun at our homecoming dance, im sure your neice was doing some of the dancing too. I find it very disrespectful that your saying some rude crap about our school, students, and staff! How dare you say that type of stuff, about our school. sure we "grind" at dances, and proms, but what you called us was wrong and you know it! for some of us its our senior year! all we want to do is have fun! whats wrong with having fun?!?! nothing at all! Mr. McLemore is the best principal in suffolk ever! you dont know half the people in the school, so how dare you judge us, and call us sluts and hoes, and were going to be on the maury show. what kind of crap is that!?!? like really. and where is the video!?! This is the type of dancing we do! its never going to change, were not in the 50's anymore, so get over it! i cant even believe you would call our student body what you called us! so how about you stop with the childish crap that youve started on here! if you had a problem about the "GRINDING" then you should have went to Mr. Mclemore and not started all this stupid childish crap! thank you!
now get a life!

and i saw what you wrote on another article about the bomb threat
saying

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 21, 2009 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Too bad she didnt call during the homecoming dance.

what kind of mess is that?!

Posted by RaNdOmNeSs_23 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i also agree with Dreon.
i personally did not go to the dance. i do not attend NRHS. but i would have.(personal reasons) but i think it is soooooooo ridiculous at all the comments made. i have a lot of friends who attend NRHS and they said that it was seperated like the left side had the "grinding" and right side was more calmed down. but still teenagers dance like that and it doesn't mean anything. and saying the teenage girl are letting people "disrespect" them. that ridiculous. if someone started to dance like that on me i would smack them upside their head!. but i know the girl are not gonna let ANYONE disrespect them they stand up for themselves. so anyways. this is stupid and people should focus on other things in the world. there are plenty of problems in the world to focus on : ecomomy, war, etc. i mean come on NRHS is a very well kept school and have AMAZING people there people who will help in this world and make a change. so really do we really need to read crap about dancing?!?!? come on teenagers want to have fun and they did. until someone opened their mouths and wanted to make NRHS sound like a bad school to attend. WITCH IT ISN'T it is a AWESOME school. so lay off and focus on things that need to be taken care of.

STUDENT who would of gone to NRHS but couldn't.(personal reasons)

Posted by SENIOR2010 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and by the way! they freakin even played "Girlfriend from Avril Lavigne"....that was some reall grinding music there ...NOT

Posted by nialove (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I, too, am horrified. But I am horrified about the fact that you think that it is okay to generalize and degrade the students at Nansemond River.
I agree with your opinion in many ways, and I do believe that some of the 'dancing' that went on was inappropriate. I was at the dance and witnessed, FIRSTHAND, the girls pulling up their dresses, wrapping their legs around boys, and acting in a completely shameful manner.
But, as I mentioned earlier, I was there. And, unlike your ever so reputable source, I was there for the entire time. Your niece stated that the music that was being played was 'grinding' music, and that the DJ was booed when he changed the song. If she had stayed for the entire dance, then you would understand that the music played was not grinding music at all.
Even though I do not agree with grinding, I still believe that it is the choice of the person dancing. But there is of course a time and place for everything. And you are not in the position to say that someone is allowing other people to disrespect them, because they have their own opinion of how they would like to be treated.
Also, the administrators did not encourage the dancing. In fact, they discouraged it strongly and attempted to break it up. If you had been there, you would have known that.
If you plan on calling all of the girls that attended the dance racy, then you might as well be calling your niece racy. Did she not attend the dance? Did you not say that those who attended the dance were 'mating'? I also feel as though your use of the word 'mating' compares us to animals, and is completely demeaning.
You also stated that you came from the same era as the 'bump'. That was in the 1970's correct? Was this time period not known for its countless drug addicts, prostitutes, and communists? You stated that each generation has their dance battles, and that ours is overly-sexual, and I agree, but you probably would not appreciate being called a drug-addicted, communist whore, and we do not appreciate our generation being called pieces of meat because of a group of people who were dancing inappropriately at a high school dance.
I cannot sit here and allow you to degrade the highly-intelligent, formerly-respected students of NR. I feel as though I have been disrespected, and not because of dancing, but by your rash conjecture. The short video that you saw does not fully represent the student body, or the staff chaperones (who you basically called perverts). I understand how you feel about this subject, and I agree with you in many ways, but you do not have the right to judge me, an honor student with a 3.8 GPA, those who attended the homecoming dance, or any part of the student body at NR.

-Nia Shipman <3

And I apologize that this was so long, it just upsets me when people attempt to call my friends or me sluts. :)

Posted by nialove (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way,
I am a Sophomore,
I miss you Jamika Bivens,
and I love you Gertrude and Guildenstern :)
- Nia <3
a.k.a. Tragedian #1

Posted by KatieT (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Excellent word choice Nialove. And your logic was thoroughly inspiring. But, is it just me, or does it seem like Ms. Salasse has become MIA? If I were her, I would put my money where my mouth is and post a link to the video that she supposedly saw. Otherwise, this article needs to be shut down for her lack of proof. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but if there was no video in the first place, she has no way to prove the legitimacy of her article. And if this is the case, perhaps the Suffolk News Herald should not have even posted this in the first place. Well that's a thought isn't it, ladies and gentlemen? This article that has upset so many people probably shouldn't have been posted in the first place. It has been poorly written and has no place in the Suffolk News Herald. On an angry blog maybe, but not here...

Waiting for Evelyn Salasse's response,
Katie T.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 6:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

123. The comment made about the bomb threat, could you understand that the building would have been cleared and the dance would have been over? Nawwwwwwww guess not but thats ok. I can see your reaction and why you reacted the way you did. Now think of my explanation as to what the intent was. Nothing more nothing less.

Posted by nialove (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear OD;
Please stop attempting to call people stupid, because it is pretty obvious that is what NrhsStudent123 meant about the bomb threat.

Posted by crissybaeby (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm going to start by saying "nialove" is my boo ! haha, ok serious note now. Evelyn is it? This article was a form of COMPLETE disrespect towards the students, faculty, and administration at Nansemond River. How do you know what was going on? Were you there? How do you know your neice wasn't lying? Just because she said these things, DOES NOT mke them true. You should really think twice before you go by what someone else said, family or not. My secnd issue with you is the calling out of name. You have absolutely no right to call out the administration at our school because Mr. Mclemore has to be one of the BEST principals I've ever had. Yes, there were SOME females that were too outrageous with their dancing but our administration quickly removed them from the dance floor. Notice the 'SOME', you shouldn't put every teenage girl at Nansemond River in that category because the rest of us were just having fun -- Like we were supposed to be doing. You've also mentioned that there were videos posted. Well, I'd sure love to know where they are because I have yet to find one. I've searched YouTube, MyspaceVideos and many other sites and all of them give the same response of "No Results Found." So, please, when you come across these so called videos again -- be sure to send me the URL. For someone that actually attended the dance, this article exasperated me because I knew what people were doing and MOST of the things you've said are false --no questions asked. Are you being "old fashioned"? Yes, yes you are. Like you said in your article, every generation has their own "dance fad" and this just so happens to be ours. No matter how outrageous and "pornographic" it may be. You really need to accept the fact that, that was then and this now. 1974 and 2009? Why would you even make that comparison? smh (shaking my head). On that "pornographic" note, ARE YOU SERIOUS? You make it seem as if we really were on the dance floor, flatout having sex. Which is absolutely ridiculous. If it would've went that far then, without a doubt the administrators would have stopped everything and we would have been forced to leave. Overall, this article was a complete waste of time because of the simple fact that it was based off of "he said, she said" information. The fact that you called out the administration, faculty chaperones, and students was completely out of line and uncalled for. Next time you decide to publish something as slandering as this, make sure you're sources are reliable. BETTER YET, make sure it's FIRSTHAND information.

-Cristelle Brown
NRHS Junior. Class of 2011 (:

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Calling one stupid? Where is that? What and who has won what? So much for that team spirit I keep reading about. You compare A "win" aka victory and then comment at least your football team has as many victories? yep go team rah rah. <sarc>

Posted by destinyismyne (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

to crissybaeby or Cristelle Brown, class of 2011
You wrote and presented your point very well. You show good potential for to be a writer, attorney, analyst or teacher. Also, you posted your name, so there can be no doubt about who wrote this posting.
Let me remind you though, the writer didn't publish the story. She wrote it.
I think you have presented a good closing argument for the students, administrators, faculty and parents of the NRHS.
Now, it is time to move on.
(So far we have heard from, perhaps about 10 percent of the student body. I sure did get a lot of input for my future unspecified project.)

Posted by nrhsco10 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 9:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As a peer of the graduating class of 2010 i will elaborate on the ignorance and stupidity of the lady who attempts to down us. You are a no life adult who obviously has nothing better to do but listen to your niece and her allegations. If your niece felt out of place then so be it, she did what she had to do to be comfortable...she left. if your niece doesnt fit into the society she lives in then keep her in the house how you've obviously been doing. you have no right to call a female a "bitch, hoe, or potential maury member"...as an adult how do you feel pounding on a teenager that is enjoying their young life and while they can. Just because whatever happens in your home and behind your doors or even in your teenage life didnt please you or you just were not attractive or even you didnt fit in with your time whenever that was, don't interpret your lonely minded niece's thoughts from what she says. we are NRHS and we are proud of what we have done. c/o 2010!!! We doin it.

-Tim P.

Posted by warriorpride10 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 9:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cristelle, Me and my mom have come to an agreement that you would make an excellent lawyer! You made some excellent points and wrote them out very well. Love you too Nia! You also made excellent points. Overall, I think Katie, Nia, and Cristelle have made very good ending points for this discussion because it is starting to wear thin and excessive repetition is occuring. We all have our opinions and obviously for some, they will not change. Thank you for those that have stuck up for our school. I think I can speak for most of the students at NRHS in saying that we appreciate it. :)

Students, keep that warrior pride because NRHS administrators and faculty have done a lot for us!
Jessica, c/o 2010 :)

Posted by NRHS55285 (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HI, I'm a very proud student of Nanesmond River, be it i am a SNR, GO CLAS OF 2010! Now, on a more serious note I did attend the dance at NRHS and althogh there was some, and do hear me out i did say "some" provocative dncin i really believe that not 1 of us wether or not an adult or studnt needs to make this situation any worse than it already is. I, also think that the neice of Mrs. Salasse needs to go to some diferent kinds of dances and maybe look up some clips on dance clubs cause wat the students did at NRHS was not at all as bad as some of the other thngs i suggested. I, also thnk that to call wat we as students believe is having fun, pornagraphic is very unethical. Y? Cause 1 of all porn is much more explicit than wat some of the students did at the dance. I also will say that to call out our staff in the sense that they just stod round and watched us do our thing is absolutely not true cause I do recall that the staff membrs and the oficers not only told the students to calm down and dance approprietly they ( the Staff) even told the DJ (who by the way did a great job) to annouce that if every1 didn't tone the dncin down then he would not be permited to play anythng else until we calmed down. I would like to respond to the part bout the "skools having lost control and condoning simulated sex acts on school property" it is not true that are schools have done such a thing and 4 an adult who is supposedly concerned bout wat we did as a student body is very rediculous. &, really all this hypocritical stuff about what u would do if u were n charge is just plain crazy, cause there is a difference n saying and doing. One last thng and this is for all the girls in NRHS whom I love no matter what they do, not n the since that I'm not goin to like some of the choices they make, I & even u make as an adult, what we have to do as society is realize that there is no way that we will stay the same so we have to accept everyone 4 who they r. I would also like to say that i'm very proud of NRHS as a school student but also the child of parents whom 3 older children went to this school and have no problem with the skool. NRHS, lets continue our legacy as a school family and be proud of ourselves for what we have acomplished together and continue to have fun and maybe the older gen. will understand that there is no need to dwell on the past but look to the future for God has a plan not only for me but for evry1 and that plan is not to disrupt or discourage or even bring down anyone no matter what the situation is but to move on and be thankful that no one got hurt.

Posted by prettyeyes (anonymous) on October 23, 2009 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok here it is....It's been a week already, my thing is IT WAS ONLY A DANCE!!!! Is it really that serious to downgrade and trash talk everyone that went to the dance? I personally had 2 of my teens go to the dance, and neither one of them came home saying that they had a bad or horrible time. EVERYONE that went to the dance said they had fun. It is what it is! It's over now let it be!

Posted by SumrJo92 (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 12:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OD, I have a few questions:

Are you a parent? If so, does your child(ren) attend or have attended NRHS? Or are they going to attend someday? I'm assuming so, since your have shown a great interest in NRHS student behavior.

Based on these concerns, am I also to assume that you volunteer regularly in school and community activites? Or is your way of participating merely to argue your viewpoint via the Internet?

Just curious.

-Jordan, c/o 2010

Posted by meggaboo07 (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 12:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So I was not at the dance but I did hear of what one person said happened.
Now, here is the thing. The author has one version, my sibling has another, and everyone else who attended has another. That's just how it works. Whatever may or may not have happened is not relevant at this point. What is, is that her niece went to the dance wanting to enjoy herself but in turn did not because of the dancing she may or may not have seen. And I am sorry that it offended her. I have been to many NRHS dances and there are times of "grinding" and what not but 9 times out of 10 someone steps in. True the music in today's society has become more vulgar but at the same time, what are the parents doing to censor it? Out of personal preference I don't listen to it but that is everyone's own decision. I think we should stop pointing fingers. The author has her right to write what she feels and what she saw on the videos. True the DJ should not have played that song but at the same time the school should have made it a priority to get a play list and have a list of "allowed songs". NRHS is not a club and should not be treated as one with dances. I am surprised at the comments I have read and I am not saying anyone is wrong because everyone is entitled to their own opinions. As such am I. I think people should stop blaming parents, the admins, the chaperons, and anyone else. The DJ played the music. It's done with. The kids danced the way they did. It's done with.

I would say for future reference, get a play list from the DJ. Have an approved list of songs for the dance. And if the students don't like it, the students don't like it. This will prevent all of this in the future. What happened happened. Just learn from the mistakes and move on. There is no need to all the pointing of fingers, name calling, etc.

As I said before, I was not at the dance, I only heard one account. Just like the author. She heard one account and saw videos online that were only snippets.

Y'all can get mad and say I have no room to talk, and that's fine. I am just saying everyone needs to take a step back and just move on. You can't change what was written or what happened at the school.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 6:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jordan c/o 2010
4 of my 6 grand kids at this point in time would be attending NRHS. Their parents along with this old school grand dad and mom have had numerous conversations regarding schools, their performance level in educational excellence, student rankings, sports performance, along with other school sponsored clubs etc etc. What some have said in this debate is we have no right to judge anyone. It was said by another adult we do and you are, the students are the heart of a school. Students set the standards and reputation of the school. Now with that being said schools's reputations are also judged on student perfrormance, drop out rate, crime or criminal activity in and out of the class room, again drop out rates and graduation rates. All of this along with school agendas, studies offered, overall school performance which includes the adminstration rules and regulations are also taken into consideration. I said in an earlier post thats its not just teachers and adminstration that must be responsible for its actions or lack of. I will continue with this in a moment.
I have been active in the community involved in paying my taxes, over 25 years of coaching football, basketball and a big supporter of Big Brothers and Sisters. Special Olympics. At one time I served in the capacity of being a juvenille community relations officer. I was approached at one time to run for the SB. Jordan what I have found over the years, Im sick of politicians and politics. Im sick of political correctness and seeing my personal rights commenced to be flushed down the toilet. One must be responsible for ones actions, accept accountability for ones actions and to be civil in ones actions. I dont belive in entitlements. I dont believe what is mine and earned by me isnt anybody elses. All need to take stock in their own lives and how they are not entitled to live off of others. At times I dont have a problem if the draft were to be brought back. Many young people could use some disclipne in their life. They surely arent getting it at home and schools wont deal with it except by passing blanket type plolicies that fail. END

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 7:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jordan continued
Ok back to addressing your question on me, my kids and grand kids. My son and daughter didnt attend any schools or gradauate from this district. When he was offered a scholarship from VaTech, he and I went upto Blacksburg for a visit. We were met and escorted around the campus by several "players" in more ways than one. One of the punk, thug, wanna be bad azz asked my son if he could smell his breath, my son reacted with a WTF. I was not present when this took place. The "young man" wanted to know what his girl friends, you take a guess... smelled like. now you tell me what you are thinking..A punk thug created an enviroment that would be judged by a responsible adult and believes in respect being a part of ones life when dealing with adults or elders. He decided in his own right to judge the punk and the school as its not the place he wanted to be. It was his call and I supported it and why. He went on to college in Texas played football and now in his final 6 months od studying to be a Customs Agent. He is attending college now part time is married and has a two year old daughter. He is 22. After this above I can already hear me being called a raccisssst and becuase of some of my other comments here. Well my 29 year old daughter is married to a blackman and they have 3 kids, 12,6 and 2. He is a college graduate and came here from Trinidad. he isnt a hip hopper, doesnt like the culture or think that it has any benefiical contribution to blacks other than you might be a rapper who strikes it big and forget professional sports and Hollywood. He has been called a Uncle Tom,House Negroe etc etc and no he didn't vote for Obama, not because of his skin color but his policies. No we didnt vote for the white guy, we voted for the white woman. he wants to put his kids into a school that he feels comfortable with based on the things mentioned earlier. It could be they could end up in a private school. END

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jason continued.
Jason, you asked me a reasonable question as I can tell you would ask of any parent or teacher. Your demeanor and attitude is commendable as well as some of the other posts by NRHS students. Parents of generations say from the 80's or or early 90's' arent wound so tight and tend to parent in a different view today than those of mine. I am a child of the 60's a veteran of that generations war. I was at Woodstock if you bvelieve that. I believe in my country served with honor and pride.
I see that no one has commented on my comments about ADULTS being responsible for what may and does take place at pvt parties. I guess I struck home with a fact. A fact that no ones is concerned about or cant debate because its true, could it be too much for some not to understand because they have experienced it and think its cool or the parent or parents are cool?. I learned to be reponsible and accountable fom my grand mother and my teachers from the school known as Suffolk High School.. Jason I will apologize to you and a few other NRHS students in here for some of my remarks. For the rest of them, no thank you.If you were offended I extend my hand and wish you well in your success in becoming a fine young man and what ever field and venue you strive for.

Posted by KNRMCO (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OD, outstanding!

Posted by kfont (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OD, HER name is JORDAN, btw. Not Jason.

Posted by nialove (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear Everyone (but especially OD),
I am tired of being DISRESPECTED by those of you who are attempting to belittle the students of Nansemond River.
I read through some of the comments posted (just a few, I do have a life), and noticed that this OD character was personally attacking the students who were expressing their opinions. I saw that you called Jaclyn Davis a ‘hoochie moma’ and a slut. I could never begin to fathom why accused her of being such. It was completely out of line. I understand that you have a right to your opinion, but opinions must be based on some amount of factual evidence in order to be valid. You made yourself look RETARDED because you do not know Jaclyn, of Jaclyn, or anything about Jaclyn except for the fact that she attended a dance. I do not know her well, but I do know her well enough to recognize that she is not deserving of your hateful words.
That was the true meaning of disrespect.
And I hope you were not talking about President Barack Obama when you said this: 'Our esteemed leader could care less, its a culture thing'. If you were, then you have another thing coming. :)
Frankly, I am willing to give you twenty dollars to end this conversation; and maybe you can use it to go purchase yourself a decent life. Who knows? Maybe it will make up for the $0.000000002 that came out of your taxes to help buy the toilet paper to support our lovely homecoming get-together.

-Nia Shipman, 2012 <3
I LOVE YOU CRISTELLE!
And to my lovely NR peers and to the infamous OD, please pay more attention in English class; you guys are killing me softly with this spelling/grammar. No offense intended, except to Mister-All-Knowing-High-School-Graduate-Who-Believes-that-High-School-Dances-are-Whore-Houses-and-that-it-is-Okay-To-Call-Teenage-Girls-Sluts. <3
Hahaaaaa, I think this is the video Ms. Salasse saw!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQd3Kawv_...
It looks like they might pull out The Bump at any second.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nia; I want you to copy and paste my comments where I called anyone teenage sluts and said whore houses. You make note of your skills on others english and spelling You have just proved you have very little reading skills and lied as to what I didnt say.Based on your previous comments, your one who deserves no apology from me on my previous comments You say opinions are personal and should be based on facts. Well you expressed your opinion on what? Facts/comments that dont dont appear under my name? Yep I did say hoochie momma, is that racisssst to you, why cant I use it? You want respect you have to earn it. My tax dollars are being wasted on your education, you cant read. No offense, im sorry you cant. You knows whats im sayins, you knows. Oh yes Nia you know you would be correct in knowing who could care less. Spend some time reading up on history, civics and current events. Opps thats right, you cant. How about making something up then, you seem to be good at that. Take your 20 and give it to someone who can use it, before they steal it, or is it 20.00 that I have already given to the govt that is a part of the welfare check that arrives you house on the first of the month? As for my decent life, hopefully you will EARN one Nia. Why not now comment on my point of maybe you just you could be the child that doesnt come home?
As for using the correct name of Jordan, two out of three times it was used isnt bad it would garner a passing grade . Your in a system that is ranked #89 out of 119 schools. Again maybe this proves my point that my tax dollars are being wasted on folks who arent smart enuff to wipe themselves. They cant read, but can make things up. Jordan asked a question that I complemented her for asking and did it with respect.Jordan has skills that you have none of. Street smarts and culture "smarts" arent going to help you land a job. Fact: Some just arent going to work. Its a culture thing. I remind you to please cut and paste my comments you accuse me of saying. If you cant your opinion of me is null and void, you have no arguement to present. Lovely.....

Posted by NRHSPASTGRAD (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OD,

Some of your previous comments included the following:

"You enjoy some boy humping on your backside like a "dog" in heat? You must, you have no self esteem"

"Your a freak and a hoochie moma"

The above phrases pulled from your comments may not say "teenage sluts" or "whore houses" but the implication is there. If you want to argue verbiage, you did not say those words exactly. But I think it is fair to say that "hoochie moma" does imply some inference to slut.

I must say that as I read through the comments there are many errors in them but I feel these students are typing the way they text and that they are also upset and not proofreading their comments. I am not defending it, I am just explaining it. There is NO WAY that if this is the way they write on their SOL's they would pass so this is not indicative of what they are learning at school. Otherwise, it would be apparent in the results of the written SOL's.

This argument has jumped from a dance to how the administration and faculty manage the students. I can assure you that the behavior at the dance is not what happens at school. People have been dancing like this in school for many years. It took place when I went to school in the late 80's and 90's. Nothing has changed in that respect.

Also, you comment that the schools and parents do not want to discipline. What kind of discipline are you referring to? If you are talking about physical discipline the answer is easy. It appears that some people about the age you say you are and a little bit younger abused physical discipline when it came to handling their children and now it is frowned upon by the courts and no longer allowed in schools. I remember when I was in school the teacher using rulers on your hands and the principal having a paddle. Those days are long gone due to the abusive situations some parents created.

I believe that this really has gone to far and way off of the subject and now all types of crazy things are being thrown around in the comments. Let's stick to the fact that someone did not like the way they heard people were dancing at the dance and wanted to express it. It happens. Now it's time to focus on other things.

I am a past graduate of NRHS (and it has been a while) and support the decisions of the faculty and staff. They have always ensured that the environment is a safe and effective learning environment.

Also OD, the community is encouraged to be proactive with the schools in the city and I am sure the school would love to have you volunteer in some fashion. That way, instead of complaining about things you see as problems, you can see if they really are and you can become part of any solutions.

Posted by mentalmonster1 (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As you can see ma'am we are smart and intelligent members of society. Your intitled to your thoughts as we are to ours, but ma'am with all due respect you dont have the right to say they should have been arrested, or call them out of thier name. Ma'am you wrong and should be ashamed for writing this article without doing your reseach. If you felt like what you heard offended you then i suggest next time you keep your niece home and come and watch the next dance if you feel so strongly. Ma'am i feel very sorry for you if what teenagers do on a dance floor is what you would consider "sexual acts". As for a these young women disrespecting themself hmmm WOW. Ma'am disrespect is the fact that on average women around the country (women YOUR age i mite add) are paid less then men. Ma'am disrespect is writing an article that stated how "sorry" you feel for our generation. Ma'am disrespect is what you have presented in your writing, but as I said before you ma'am are intitled to your thoughts as i and my generation are intitled to ours. One thing I hope you and all others who comment in a manner that agreed with you is; Ma'am WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE THE FUTURE. Please accept this now because later you will have no say in the manner. We will not be like you just as you were not like your parents. Change is needed for growth ma'am.

Jaylen Young GBHS 2011

Posted by batman (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the best thing to do is to create a code of conduct book for everyone at school to follow and that includes what goes on in the parking lots, after a dance. But first you need a book, right? What should be rule number 1 ?

Posted by KatieT (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OD,

Cease and desist your offensive argument. Before you cast the first stone, may I point out that it is obvious that you have been out of school for a while? Let me remind of a little thing we call grammar.
"im sorry you cant." That is a bit ironic because last time I checked, an apostrophe should be in "I'M" and "CAN'T" sir. Also, when referring to oneself, the "I" should be capitalized. Additionally, since I am guessing you are attempting to write in a scholarly tone, you should not be using contractions in the first place.
“Opps thats right.” OOPS you spelled that wrong, too. If you are as intelligent as you think you are, you can guess my argument.
“I have already given to the govt [NO COMMENT] that is a part of the welfare check that arrives you house on the first of the month?” Excuse me, but what are you implying? That was an asinine statement, OD. Even for your low, senile and questionably racist standards. To be frank, OD, you are starting to sound more like the old, white confederate man (or lack thereof) you probably are. Tell me something: Are you okay with your daughter being married "to a blackman [WHICH IS ONE WORD] from Trinidad because he is, in fact from Trinidad? Great job on ALMOST dodging that accusation, buddy.
Seriously, why are you arguing with a sophomore in high school? Grow up please and watch who you are disrespecting lest this becomes ugly…

Katie T.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GRAD your comments duly noted. I had no idea that some had a patent on speech, and I cant use it when its a part of some's daily lives because its ok for them to think and say the same thing to each other. Thank you for your insight, your opinion. Volunteering is great no doubt but today politcal correctness over rides common sense. I sent a registered letter to the good doctor and I hope to speak out at the next ADVERTISED meeting of the SB. I can't wait to hear back from him. If you attend the meeting your lucky to get two minutes. Again thank you for your commentary and thoughts.

Posted by nialove (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 6:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you Katie, I officially love you. And is that you Jaylen, from Cristelle's COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE birthday party? Hey :)
Anyway, even though I promised myself that I was done with this bullcrap, I am back. OD, this is the beginning of a few very long comments, so get your reading glasses.
First, I am going to address the least offensive part of your comment. If I wanted to use a direct quote, I would have used a direct quote. You see, what I did was called inferring. In simpler terms, I took what you implied with your writing to understand what you were attempting to say. If still do not understand my point, I cannot make it any simpler.
And you agreed that the dancing was pornographic, which means that it included sex, and unless I have mistaken, whore-houses usually have some slight sexual influence. I am just saying, you said that our dance was inappropriate and overly sexual (which I do not understand how you could determine, because you were not there), so comparing our dance to a whore-house based solely on the opinions that you stated, was not too far-fetched.
The following is a portion of your last response, partially edited by a FOURTEEN-year-old:
Nia,
I want you to copy and paste my comments where I called anyone a teenage sluts and said whore houses. You make note of your skills on other's English and spelling, you have just proved you have very little reading skills and lied as to what I didn't say. Based on your previous comments, you're the one who deserves no apology from me on my previous comments. You say opinions are personal and should be based on facts. Well you expressed your opinion on what? Facts/comments that don't appear under my name? Yep, I did say hoochie momma, is that racist to you, why cant I use it? You want respect, you have to earn it. My tax dollars are being wasted on your education, you cant read. No offense, I'm sorry you can't. You knows whats im sayins, you knows. Oh yes Nia, you know you would be correct in knowing who could care less. Spend some time reading up on history, civics and current events. Oops that's right, you can’t. How about making something up then, you seem to be good at that. Take your 20 and give it to someone who can use it, before they steal it, or is it 20.00 that I have already given to the govt that is a part of the welfare check that arrives you house on the first of the month? As for my decent life, hopefully you will EARN one, Nia. Why not now comment on my point of maybe you, just you, could be the child that doesn't come home?
That is without any corrections on subject-verb agreement, sentence structure, or the other countless flaws that I have noticed throughout many of your posts (which, again, I did not read all of, because I have a life). A remedial English student could write better than you.
Again, that issue was the least of my worries.

Posted by batman (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 7:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Through out the 154 comments there are a lot of mis-spelled words by many people but I still know what they are saying. Why drag spell checking into your debate, people usually resort to that when they run out of ammo for attacking.And everyone knows it's just bad manners to attack the fellow bloggers.This debate is about grinding at a school dance, and from what I understand the dance was taken to a higher level.How about the other students at the dance that didn't grind, don't you think it may have made some feel uncomfortable.And yet the dance was for all the students there. Everyone's feelings should have been taken into consideration.

Posted by nialove (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now, I can fully express my infuriation with you OD. :)

And before I even think about beginning, some of the things mentioned below were not directed towards me, but I still found them offensive.

HOW DID RACISM BECOME INTERTWINED IN YOUR ARGUMENT?
Seriously, what does race have to do with anything? Did I ever tell you that I was African-American? No, I did not. Did I even tell you that I was not white? No, I did not. Am I African-American? Yes, but why in heck does that matter? WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN JUDGE MY RACE OVER WHAT COMES OUT OF MY MOUTH? YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO JUDGE ME, AT ALL! You said 'I did say hoochie momma, is that racist to you, why cant I use it'. Race has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with one being a hoochie, a freak, a slut, or a virgin. And I am pretty sure that you would not have approached Jaclyn the way you did if you had known that she, in fact is half WHITE.

'Jordan has skills that you have none of.' Jordan is NOT WHITE. I bet you did not realize that. That is probably why you answered her questions with much more class than when you answered my question saying that 'Again maybe this proves my point that my tax dollars are being wasted on folks who arent smart enuff to wipe themselves. They cant read, but can make things up.' Well you are not smart enough to spell 'enough' or 'aren't'. I sure do hope that you are smart enough to kiss what I am not intelligent enough to wipe.

Again, yes, I am black. But if you do not want your freaking tax dollars WASTED on a freaking black person's education, move the heck out of Suffolk, because many of the students here are black.

And again, YES, I AM BLACK! THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT I GET A WELFARE CHECK, AND IT DEFINITELY DOES NOT MEAN THAT I CANNOT READ! YOU ARE NOT IN ANY POSITION TO JUDGE ME, ESPECIALLY ABOUT ME AND MY FAMILY'S FINANCIAL SITUATION.

I live in a quiet, upscale, predominately WHITE neighborhood, and most of the houses there cost 0.5-2.5 MILLION dollars. YEAHHHHH, LIKE I'M THE LITTLE 'house negroe' (yes, those are your words, and no, you do not have any right to say them) TAKING YOUR FREAKING WELFARE MONEY. SO WHAT? I'M BLACK, it definitely does not mean that my family is broke! DOES YOUR FOOT TASTE GOOD?

And if you do not like wasting your money on welfare or education of less fortunate people, please leave Suffolk. As a matter of fact, leave Virginia. Actually, leave America. Really, you might as well move to Antarctica because that is pretty much the only place in the world that does not have taxes or human interaction, which you also seem to dislike. AND GUESS WHAT! EVERYTHING IS WHITE! Except those darn penguins, but at least you do not have to pay for their worthless education.

Posted by nialove (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

'You knows whats im sayins, you knows.' Hahaa, I am pretty sure that if anyone in NR, white or black or purple, talked like that, they would be called stupid by everyone in the school.

If someone said 'GIRLS, YOUNG WOMEN AND EVEN OTHERS ARE JUST THAT, MEAT, BITCHES AND HOES' at our school, or anything similar, they would be expelled, or run out of the school by outraged students. I cannot believe that you think that it is okay to say such inappropriate, rude, sexist, nasty, prejudiced things. I am truly disgusted.

You also said that our school is characterized by its dropout rates? NR DEFINITELY HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST DROPOUT RATES IN TIDEWATER. Just because we are predominately black does not mean that we are stupid.

Stop stereotyping us. We are sick of your judgment.

The only thing I apologize for is insulting you personally.
OTHER THAN THAT, I AM NOT SORRY ONE BIT, BECAUSE I DID NOTHING WRONG.

YOU ARE THE LAST PERSON I WOULD EVER WANT RESPECT FROM. AND I TRULY DO NOT EVEN WANT AN APOLOGY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU WOULD NOT MEAN IT. I want respect from people who are respected themselves: those who work hard for what they have, and attempt to help out those who are not as fortunate as them if possible. I have a support system made up of people like this. My parents, my aunts and uncles, my grandparents, and my great-grandparents are such people. They are store owners, city managers, directors of major worldwide organizations, doctors and so much more. But most of all, they are all benefactors. They care about others and because of this they have learned to stick together through tough situations. They are all successful, and they are mostly BLACK!

I have wasted 2 to 3 precious hours of my precious time on this bullcrap. Almost as long as the dance. I really do not care anymore, you attempted to make me upset, but I am still cool, calm, and collected.

The dance is over,
We are all at home,
everything is good.
I am done.
You guys should be done too, because this is stupid.

I will conclude this with a quote from NR's McNasty! (yeahh, he's black) DON'T JUDGE ME!!

-Nia Shipman <3
(freak what you heard)

Posted by twilliams (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NOW LOOK,
i just got done reading this and i'm seriously PO'ed
about this.
Mrs.Evelyn Salasse or mister.
probably mister ;)

you reallllllllllllly need to get a life you hear.
just because your niece didnt get a date
or couldnt find someone to dance with doesnt
mean you have to complain about it.because now
you have a group full of students waiting to bother your
"innocent" niece :]]]]]]]]]]]]
Second,i know your old.reallly old.
thing's have changed since the 1800s dear.
and seriously you need to understand.sex is a big part of life now of days.BIG WHOOP.
if you dont like it then deal with it.dont write some little thing over the internet saying how bad we are because you'll have the warriors ready to say something back.
i went to the dance and enjoyed it.
i enjoyed it soooooo much that my back was
hurting the next morning! HA!

yeah,there was kids that were grinding,and some that were slow dancing.and kids that were standing and talking.
SO,why are you saying that EVERY girl was disrespecting themselves,or acting like a 'piece of meat'?!?!

and HONESTLY,we dont care if your niece showed up in a new dress and heels!
no one wanted to dance with her,so why waste your money?!
we're in an effin' recession XD

and i just spent the last hour trying to find a SINGLE video of the dance.and there was none.
so do us a favor,back your info up.
because you deff look stupid when you have a bunch of students from one of the best high schools in suffolk proving to you how wrong you are.

and deserving an apology?!
what are you smoking? what is your niece smoking??
because you DO NOT deserve anything from anyone.
its hilarious how unintelligent you must be to say our dance was like a porn.

because it deff wasNT.
and it isnt our fault your niece is some loser that isnt exposed to how society is now of days.and if she doesnt get exposed to it then she'll probably be some LOW-LIFE like you(;

oh and saying we performed sexual acts on the floor is completely FALSE.
we werent on the floor having sex now.
be correct on what your niece tells you.
whats done is done,so why waste your time?
geez,you're soooo stupid!

Tiara Williams,a proud Freshman at NRHS.
class of 2013<3
(:

Posted by batman (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

159 and counting,this has got to be a new record

Posted by gradof09 (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 10:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We aren't heading into another "Footloose".
Parents all your kids dance this way, no matter where the dance is at.
There is no need to call these students what you have.
Go check out all of the other schools, don't put this all on Nansemond River. I loved going there.
Nansemond River is an excellent school, how about you go to the next dance and watch how they dance yourself. One student attending there, going home and saying how she didn't have a good time, then you blow it up out of proportion.
Adult's fighting with kid's... You don't do that!
Let us live, you lived your life.. We have heard all the dirty music from your generation, and seen the way you danced.
You aren't goody two shoes. Get over what happened.
Writing about what your niece told you doesn't mean shes telling the whole truth you know.
My little sister attended the dance and had a blast! That was her first real dance. Now we got parents trying to ruin fun for kids.
Don't bring all of Nansemond River into this, talk to your kids. If you don't like whats going on, shelter them, don't let them out of the house.

But leave Nansemond River alone.
It's an amazing school, maybe you should spend a day there and see that things really aren't bad.
My sister is going to have fun, nothing like this is going to ruin it for her.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, you take care and stop "freakin out". Its not good for you Nia. Its been a pleasure to see my tax dollar at work. My oldest grand daughter was told by three other black students, that she needed to stop being a uppity white girl wanna be.She was told that she was nothing but a little nigga girl and always would be. Now before you or others call me a racisssssst, I used the same language that is in your music you listen to and grind to.With some it makes up a large portion of their lifestyle and beliefs.. If others speak out about it, many who do are called raccisssst. And that is a shame. Some have said its stereotyping, you did. What was amazing is the posts that I read. In say 95% of them I could see who was what. I wasnt the one who brought race into it. It had already been exposesd. All I did was use it against you and your arguement but that makes me a raccissssst?
I made note earlier that Mrs. Salasse and her daughter have been threatened by what? Punks?
The other comment I will make on you and this subject Nia, Im not worried, Im not hear to impress you with spelling or communication skills. The point was made, you understood what was being said. You took the bait. Why would you think that I thought Jordan was white? You assumed that is what I was thinking and how I responded to her questions. You right, you dont have her skills. She could be upset over what took place at the dance, she could be upset at my remarks. I would prefer to sit wih any kid black or white
kid or adult to discuss ones behavor or to just sit and listen to. She showed class and maturity. You took the bait, all I did was ask questions, all you did was to spin them for your response and attack. So you said that almost all in your family are black. So its safe for me to assume that you have whites in your family but you doubt that I cant have a black son in law and mixed grand kids, who I love dearly and will defend and protect them against or from any nigga white or black. Did you ever take the time to google Chris Rock and read his comments on the subject? Its a great read and it's educational in its own right. Nia, I do wish you the best in your journey to where ever it leads and takes you. Learn from your family, be charitable to those who are deserving of it. I would prefer that my grand kids would when choosing their friends that a Jordan would be their preference and would be glad to call her a friend. But that would be up to her. What people think you are, doesnt make it true, that is up to the person in question.

Posted by Classof12 (anonymous) on October 24, 2009 at 10:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ok how about OD needs to get a life and stop arguing with a bunch of teenagers.It's really pointless if you havent figured it out yet. Their going to keep going and going. You pissed off a huge amount of people. and your making it worse, so stop running your mouth. Build a Bridge and get over it. The dance was a week ago. and ur tax dollars didnt go into shiz. we paid for the dance.and theres no point in complaining about where ur money goes. because you have no choicce but to pay it. so stop bitching. you sound like an adult who has no life but to sit on a computer and talk to kids. i wouldnt be suprised if you were some old pervert. This shiz is over with. why doesnt anyone get it? im sick of hearing about it. im sick of reading dumb comments insulting everyones intellengence. no one is perfect.not everyone can spell or use proper grammer perfecty. and i am no different.This all started because of a person who believes everything she hears. I heard the neice doesnt even go to our school. im not saying thats true.its just what i HEARD. But anway, why is everyone insulting everone? this article is about a dance that is a week old.just go about our lives.everyone who goes to nrhs..just move on. we had our share of opinons, time to move on. were better than arguing with a cyber person.and OD i have a life.so i dont check this thing all the time. so theres no point to respond to whatever i said.

Go warriors.
who cares what they think.
we know FIRST hand what goes down at our school.
They can believe what the want to.
False or not.
we cant change the mind of others.
we can only prove them how wonderful we really are.

Posted by batman (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlGmnKvOh...

Posted by hop17 (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

look i see wear u coming from but u need to stop acting up tight.i mean your daughter or wat ever should be able to enjoy herself but its your responsiblity to make sure she's not exposed to things that YOU dont want her exposed to.now when you was a youth/teen the twist or moonwalk or WHAT EVER was the style but times do change. that does not make it right but your not stopping nobody by making this artical all you are doing is pissing people off.

Posted by antwinegan (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i am a student from nansemond river who attended the dance
...you can not judge something that you did not see..... and so if your niece didnt like the dance she is probably wack anyway
..nansemond river is a good school so dont try to down on our school...and you act like dancing is affecting our school grades.....
tiara winegan

Posted by WakaFlocka (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So u Mad? Im a student at Nansemond and the Dj was wack. Far as your neice if she was so disgusted why did she stay long enough to see all that. Another thing is I am not a pornstar so you shouldn't be downing "children" if your an Adult. If you were "REAL" you would do something about it like take action instead of running your mouth on the internet. All we did that night did not consist of grinding because like you said some students booed the dj, So I dont understand how we were doing this the whole night plus we participated in group dancing. If you were so horrifed why were you on youtube watching juvinilles grind{a little suspect to me} bottom line its the 21st century and we don't do the bump it's just dancing so get over it!

Posted by TBSuffolk (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Suffolk News Herald needs to use better judgement than to a.) publish a letter of such caliber that can be offensive to minors and to their families and community, b.) allow it to be online with comments posted that continue the offensiveness shown towards these minors, and c.) continue to allow minors to be upset in such a fashion that they are going to verbal war with supposed adults.

Please SSN, pull this letter and all comments off line. Now. This will get no where and is doing no good for any of Suffolk.

Posted by nialove (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 4:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Last comment, ever. :)

Uppity white-girl wannabe?
Hahaa, I hope you are not comparing me to her, because that does not describe me one bit. People who know me understand that act white at times, but I am not a wannabe. I know that I am black, and I appreciate what the strong black people before me in my life, but I am not going to walk around the halls of NR, or anywhere else, acting like a 'little nigga girl' from the streets, because I was not raised that way. At least I have strong black people in my family to look up to. Personally, I feel sorry for your granddaughter, because she comes from a family that believes it is okay to degrade teen girls over the Internet. Like I mentioned before, my family has worked hard to get to where they are, and you are still judging me by my race NOT by the qualities I exhibit.

And no one ever threatened Ms. Salasse's niece! If someone did, that person was WAY out of line and needs to calm down.

'In your music you listen to and grind to'? MY MUSIC? Are you seriously still stereotyping me? Do you really think that the best thing that I can do with my time is grinding? I had not even heard that song, Becky, until that night. You think because I am black I enjoy that dumb music? NO, I have some morals, I have only heard that song once, at the dance, and I do not plan on hearing it again. MY musical preference has nothing to do with this issue, but you should know that the music I listen to includes artists ranging from to typical Drake/Lil Wayne to Taylor Swift/NeverShoutNever to Paramore/Bring Me the Horizon to even Sade/India Arie, so do not compare me to anyone who goes around randomly grinding on people, because I am not that kind of person.

AND NO I DID NOT Google Chris Rock, because, AGAIN I SAY, I do have a life, and I do not care what he has to say about, because HE WAS NOT AT NANSEMOND RIVER'S HOMECOMING DANCE and NIETHER WERE YOU. (No offense to Chris Rock)
As for the rest of your comment, IT MADE NO SENSE. It was completely off topic.
WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS SUBJECT? Why do you find it necessary to call us degrading terms such as freaks and hoochie momas? IT HAS BEEN CLEARLY PROVEN THAT YOUR WORDS WERE NOT NECESSARY.
AND, YOU ARE STILL JUDGING ME, so now I will judge you:
You are an old and demented, and you enjoy attempting to demoralize and destroy the self esteem of young women and minorities. But what you have not yet realized is that the students of NR are stronger than your failed attempts and will always come out ahead of you.

The last you will ever hear from
-NIA SHIPMAN!!! <3
PROUD NANSEMOND RIVER WARRIOR,
SOPHOMORE, CLASS OF 2012!
(Neither 'uppity white girl wannabe', nor 'little nigga girl' :)

Thank you lovely ladies and gentlemen who supported me throughout this foolishness, but I am done arguing with this guy. :)

Posted by KatieT (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yo, OD, this is me calling you out.

How about you never comment again, so you can stop digging your ditch deeper, eh? Your argument has strayed so much from the issue at hand, just shut up.
HOWEVER, if you still want to argue, how about you pick on someone else. Leave Nia alone, alright? She's done, but I don't seem to have gotten a sensible response from you.

Or are you scared to respond to someone who will beat you into the ground with an essay?

Katie T.

Posted by mentalmonster1 (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 9:53 p.m.

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Posted by mcdb (anonymous) on October 25, 2009 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've come to this discussion too late to take it all in- but I did see one student say that the letter made NRHS look like trash and all the other schools do it, too. ..."it" you mean- look like trash? Well then you're right. I've mailed letters to members of our city based on the gyrations I saw CHILDREN (yes- you're under 18- you're a child!) doing as a part of the band routines for The Peanut Fest Parade. My husband and I were both shocked and embarrassed and the SHEER lack of CLASS that was on exhibition. I can't blame the girls- their coaches should be held to a higher level of blame. In a society where there are so many underage pregnancies, a coach and designed a suggestive and completely inappropriate dance routine for a child! THere's a death of outrage in this country...starting on the ground level. Get mad parents! THese are your KIDS!!!

Posted by mcdb (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 12:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh and real quick for all you NRHS...Been to your prom, taught in your system, disappointed in your arguments. Glad you're passionate about something- but really, you're passionate about 'freaky' dancing/grinding?! As a teacher and a parent, I hope you have this much passion for your school work and your future.

And as a comment stated much earlier- you are judged.EVERYWHERE in EVERYTHING. A civil discussion doesn't resolve itself with 'You're an idiot' or using 'nigga.' Unacceptable. Sign up for the debate team, speech class, and for almost all of you, ENGLISH!!

Posted by sierrat (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 7:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Alright, I believe that this has gotten completely out of hand. I guess I will be the mature person about this, Ms Salasse, if that is your opinion thats fine, but you took your opinion a little bit to far when you questioned Nansemond Rivers admisistration and its students. I would like to see the videos you claimed to have seen because even before the student body got ahold of this article, there were no videos. Freak dancing/grinding can be found at any school dance, including most private schools, yes it is sexual but thats just the way society has developed over time. But according to my mother, who is 41 years old, these sexual dances have been around since she was in High School. As for NRHS students, you havent represented yourselves well. Your point has been clearly stated, but it was stated in the wrong light and you have misrepresented yourself. I attended the homecoming dance, and from my view point there was nothing pornographic about it, every student knows what kind of dancing to expect when they arrive at the dance. I think its time to end this arguement because as adults, they have an advantage over us. I hope that our school wont be punished for what one person who had not seen but heard of the dance. Nansemond River is the Best School around, and I guess some people dont see that.

Sierra Taylor
Class of 2010
Nansemond River High School

Posted by sierrat (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 7:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I take that back, Class of 2011 before any adult jumps on my case.

Posted by KNRMCO (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

HOW ABT THIS SCENARIO: Its homecoming, you're at the "dance". EVERYONE is grinding. "Janie & Wilson" are grinding, and Janie thinks he has gotten a little too "friendly", she cries "sexual assult" and Wilson says he he was only "Dancing". Now what? Who is right & who is wrong? Who do you believe? Is it her fault because she was grinding with him? Is it his fault because he was "dancing" with her & he thought all was cool? If she was your friend & he wasn't, would you stand beside her & blame him? Or if you are his friend, do you blame her? What if Wilson was then charged with sexual assult when he "really" didn't do anything wrong? I think that this may be some of the questions put forth by adults. Where do you draw the line between accectable & unacceptable behaviour? It may never happen & it didn't happen but it could!

Posted by KatieT (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So mcdb,

Why are you disappointed in our arguments? Some people here have made excellent points. As for your "sign up for English" statement, if you worked in the school system, you would know all of us are required to be in our English classes already. Also, if you look carefully, you will find that an ADULT, namely some character called OD ended his ignorant argument with the "n" word. Perhaps you should tell HIM to sign up for some debate and English courses as it was he who usually had horrible spelling, grammar and arguments.

I do agree that society has somewhat crumbled over the years, but it did not just start with gyrating children in the marching band, many of whom, by the way are actually legal adults.

P.S. As a person who cares for your well-being, maybe you shouldn't talk about the Marching Bands. That's a completely different tangent that we do not need to approach. The whole purpose of this argument was to reprimand Ms. Salasse’s lack of legitimacy in her article. She insulted our administration and had no proof to prove what she saw. That is our topic. If you wish to complain about parents, this is not the article for you.

Katie T.

Posted by mcdb (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Katie-

I am well aware of your curriculum...and wish that many of your fellow peers could repeat an English course or two (or 3!).

The arguments presented are lacking substance.
---Wanting to 'grind' isn't a reason.

---Because "everyone else is doing it"- is a totally lame excuse.

--- I pointed out the band's performance because, as you children believe your dancing is completely acceptable, other adults (and honey....I'm under 30) find the 'dancing' lacking one thing...a pole. (the band is just an extension of what is going on- if their 'dancing' is what schools (not just NR) are willing to present as a shining example of their students- then I'm highly disappointed in all involved.)

---As for OD- OD was targeted, labeled racist. Because many of you have never posted before, you are not familiar with OD, his writing style, or family- a line was crossed. We (commenters to the SNH pg) do not attack each other personally, as your peers have. This is more of a grown up forum- where ending an argument with 'you're an idiot' shows the weakness of your argument.

---other classmates attacked other commenters- not just OD. One asking 'what was the author smoking?'

---You say that Ms. Salasse doesn't have proof. All she needs to do is go back and read the responses of NRHS students to this page. Most, if not all, have supported her argument- agreeing that 'grinding' isn't that bad...or it can be found in other schools (even private), or the song wasn't that bad. You have all proved her right.

---And THIS article is the PERFECT article to complain about parental involvement. For students to go out and show such lack of respect for themselves and their school...something is lacking somewhere....and my guess...it starts at HOME...you know, where the PARENTS are! Ahhh....there's the connection.

Can any of your classmates sit back, re-read these comments by 'non-NRH' schoolers and see what is being addressed? We want the best for you. We don't even know you and we want the best for you. We want you to respect yourself, and present yourself, your family, and your school is a positive light. We want people to look at you and say, 'what a fine young woman she is'....not...did you see her grinding up on so-and-so at the dance. If the dancing was so 'fine'--why were teachers stepping in and saying 'stop'? Why was the DJ told to remind students to 'dance like you're at school'? Clearly-whether teens see it or not- a line of acceptability was being crossed.

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chris Rock used it. Whats the difference. I didnt call any body that. The word was used to describe both white an blacks. Your upset why, because what and who comes to mind. Its not an all incluvise word just for you and your community. I dont like the word, I dont enjoy using it.
Then many of the black entertainers or so called entertainers use it to demean and to make millions at your expense. I see it as a problem, you seem to accept it.
Before you pass judgement on my usuing the word. read what he says and is saying. You criticze others for doing that and not KNOWING the facts.
mcdg: Well said and Mr.Spears was dead in in his points per his words under ther opinion that he wrote. I read no counter point or excuses from any of you students. Wonder why? Not one has responded to my question and or point on pvt parties. The point was ignored because its true?
Kate questions mcdb. The debate is ignored when one cant respond without examining the points being presented but chose to attack. We has adults and taxpayers DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUESTION ADMINSTRATORS TEACHERS, STUDENTS as to what takes place in any public owned schools. Any behavior or type of in the school or out on the street such a parade or sports venue is subjct to be questioned. Just because what you seem not to acknowlede of something you didnt want to comment on is really no different than what transpired at the dance. Behavior is the crux of the matter. You claim to be strong supporters of you school. Go Warriors and all of that is nice, however first impressions that adults see or dont see to question doesnt mean we dont dismiss the act or behavior we hear about. No lies were told, you admit what took place You take pride in it for its just dancing its kids just being kids. Your school is judge by actions, it adminstrators, and teachers and yes in some cases the parent who fail to control the event and its students. . Students will be judged on their words, their work product in school. And their behavior in and out of school sponsored events and beyond. Parents and taxpayers have the right to see that schools are responsible and accountable for their actions and the students actions. Many of you should learn from Jordan and a few other of your classmates She and the others are true Warriors in every sense of the word and beyond.

Posted by KatieT (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mcdb-
I understand what you are saying about how parents should be involved, but I still think that although it is true, once again the main argument that we students had was that Salasse was not right in saying the administration sat back and watched the "show." She made it seem a lot worse than it actually was. Also, I understand what your argument was in regards to the band- I was in it and quit because of some of the dance moves, but I really don't think it is going to change anytime soon.

About OD- did you read his stuff? Some of it was worse than what students were saying, in my opinion. But that's just what it is: My opinion. To me, he seemed to be approaching the line of border racism or simple offensiveness by talking about his tax dollars going towards a girl's welfare check. How would that honestly make you feel? Does that not sound like something a childish person, let alone, a "grown up" would say? Just saying, sweetie.

In response to OD,
Did you respond to some of the points I directed to you? Also, is Chris Rock you idol? Why do you keep referencing him alone? That is just out of curiosity, but I do have another real question: How do you know I accept the n word, or any other stereotype black people have come to accept over time? I'm sure you did not know that I am Kenyan and was brought up as one. Not of Kenyan descent but that my mother is an immigrant from Kenya, Africa. Anyway, all this is in the hands of the School Board and as mcdg put it, the concerned parents and people that want the best for us. She and those like her are true supporters of America's youth in every sense of the word and beyond.

In conclusion,
OD you have a nice life and maybe get some help figuring out if you are really a racist or not, mcdb, I do respect your arguments for the most part, so touche. You actually have a good point about how some of our students carried themselves in their arguments. However, if the band bothers you too much, maybe you could come see a NR play? They're actually quite appropriate, seriously, and could use more patronage...

Have a nice day,
Katie T.

Posted by mcdb (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Katie- Very nice. See- this is what we, adults, as for- civilized, mature discussions. I'm glad you could see what I was saying. Not knowing you, I can already say that I am proud of you for standing up for yourself in quitting the band...and never would I advocate quitting. The band, itself, is very accomplished/talented- the need to have the girls gyrating in the front is unnecessary. But that is just the point- our society seems to be less concerned with degrading of women and more concerned with the shock and awe factor. I know you've heard of 'video vixens'- why is this a goal? Why would these trashy girls want to be emulated? This is my point.

The beef you have with OD is a personal one. Perhaps a little un-PC at times, OD does state the pt and express his opinion, much like you did yours. OD is taking on the role that few are willing to do- the role of a sensible adult. If today's youth is so grown-up they should be able to handle 'tough love.' A month or so ago, the SNH ran a story about teenage mothers and there was a huge controversy over what seemed to be an article supporting such recklessness in teens- OD may be referencing this article when speaking of the 'welfare check'...but again- that's between you and OD.

My advice- copy and print this thread....go back in 10 years and read what your classmates thought was important and appropriate- with a little more life experiences, I think you will all be surprised at what was A)important and B) what you thought was acceptable.

Best of luck in your school year!! Work hard!!!

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We live out our days in certain ways that allows us to be oblivious to certain things. I guess that’s why when people say ignorance is a bliss they really mean it. But it is only bliss to those who are ignorant. Because of this racism is alive and well in America now-a-days. What’s ironic is that it’s not because of what you would normally think. We have people yelling out racism, discrimination, and prejudice and they are always pointing the finger at someone else. While they are too busy hollering and complaining they seem to lack the understanding that they are at fault for their own turmoil. They are the reasons that the stereotype is not a stereotype but rather a nonfictional inference.

Many blacks think and pass on to their off spring that every white person is out to get you and them because he is in fact black. With ones view of being racially victimized he or she doesn’t realize that he or she is one that contributes to the very same stereotype that he or she vigorously tries to deny exists.
Judge people by their words and actions. The prejudice people perpetuate is a fear of the unknown, and a resentment based on a variety of factors, including: ethnic heritage, economic class, societal class, intelligence, etc. It would be naive to believe that prejudice is solely based on ethnicity. People need to take responsibility for their lives and strive to be productive members of the society in which they live. The goal is to establish a civilization that is sustainable and respects the individual’s unalienable rights endowed by our Creator.
Now, I understand that this was just a dance, and infact there wouldn’t have been a problem if Mrs Salasse comments would have been positive.But it exemplifies the attitude. Someone wrongs you, thats unacceptable. Wrong other people, thats life in the ghetto or Im black.
The hard point on Chris Rock, read his personal opinion, it ties in with this debate.
Until there’s a realization that the wounds WE ALL AS BLACK AND WHITE have are self inflicted on both we’ll continue to be a community in decline.
Being a grand parent of 4 racially mixed grandchildren, my youngest son is married to a young woman/lady who is first generation born Honduran American who thinks of herself as an American first. I had mentioned earlier of my daughters 3 racially mixed children who are of a black legal imigrant from Trinidad. How can I be a racist? The oldest one is under assualt verbally only by a few at this time by those who think she can only be one or the other. Where did this attitude come from home? Music the culture She cant have her own personality or beliefs? (Obama come to mind?) It is only going to get worse in the years to come, because of the crumbling of society." I used your words. See there is a basic agreement. I will leave the debate,dialog, "beat down" <sarc> and thoughts of many with the idea of lesson learned by all. If not nothing will change for all concerned

Posted by mikacheek (anonymous) on October 26, 2009 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Seriously Everyone? I honestly think that the comments stated above are both unneccesary and hurtful. You all are taking the time out of your day to hurt one another. It has been a week since this article has been posted, and your arguements don't even correspond with it anymore, some of you are just making personal attacks towards one another. Place respectable and intelligent comments if you make any. OD, you express how much of an adult you are, but yet you come up here everyday to argue with children. This has got to stop. Have some pride and dignity in yourselves. Everyone up here has bragged so much on how mature they are. Maturity isn't always trying to win a battle by any means neccessary, sometimes being mature means to choose not to fight at all. Nrhs students, if this upset you, so be it... it upset me also. But do not let them see you down. It makes us look as if we can't get through this as young adults. Who cares what random adults have to say about us, don't be foolish enough to feed into this nonsense by having an online battle. It makes us look childish, and I know we as a school are better than that. If people want to have online conversations, let them- by themselves. We have better things to do with our time. Don't be so quick to whine and cry so fast, let it go and put on a smile like a painted on mask.

P.S. To every adult who has responded to this, we are children, have some respect for that. The actions taken place by some students do not represent NR as a whole. One minute the dance was a problem, now it has moved on to society and racism. This has gotten out of hand. Mam, if you want to fight this battle, by all means go ahead. But please take the correct actions to do so. If the dance upsets you so much, try going to the administration, or volunteering to chaperone a dance. I just don't believe it's in your best interest to argue with high school students. I apologize if my words offended anyone, but come on... You all can admit this has gotten completely out of control. Let's just go about our lives already...
XoXo- Jamika Bivens
NRHS Sophomore

Posted by mandacmoe (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This only ONE of the MANY reasons I continue to pay more than $1,000 per month for my children to attend Isle of Wight Academy. Suffolk Public School system is HORRID! and I think these "kids" need to realize that respect is earned, not given...and dancing like that is dfisrespectful to others who may have felt uncomfortable. I truly believe behavior like this contributes to the rise in teen pregnancies in Suffolk (remember we lead all other cities in teen prego!)

Posted by SENIOR2010 (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So OD, i have already explained to you my opinions when this was first posted a week ago and now i just seem to get up here every now and then to read what others have to say...but i need to ask you something: why do you seem to ignore everyone who is telling you to be adult and end this stupid arguement? instead you keep going on with unneccesary issues such as: taxes, racism, spelling/grammer, our society, and about your family background. it seems to me this isn't even about the dance anymore so why are you even wasting time in your day to argue with all the student of NRHS?

Posted by OD (anonymous) on October 27, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I will leave the debate,dialog, "beat down" <sarc> and thoughts of many with the idea of lesson learned by all. If not nothing will change for all concerned

ITS CLEAR TO ME it says "I will leave"

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